How long can a processor last, at 90% ?

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  • loureed4
    loureed4
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    Hello,

    I have a laptop and within, several vmware machines because I am taking some IT courses and need them to set up labs.

    I see that this laptop (not strangely at all) is always at 90% processor level.

    Can a laptop crash soon under this condition?

    Thanks in advance!

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    Ossian
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    #189827

    Re: How long can a processor last, at 90% ?

    IMHO, no – it should be able to run indefinitely at high (but not 100%) load

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    uk_network
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    #307937

    Re: How long can a processor last, at 90% ?

    Running at 90% for an extended period of time will generate a lot of heat. Components running too hot have a greater chance of failing further down the road. Laptops are very compact so this could effect other components too.
    The hotter you run things the greater the risk.
    Just my two cents.

    Edit. I use PC Wizard to monitor temps. There are a lot of other programs out there that do the same thing.
    If you are interested the home page is: http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/pc-wizard.html
    Generally I say full load between 50-60 and below is ok. Anything above 60 degrees is a little on the hot side. Idle temps around 20-30 degrees.

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    shefi
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    #379778

    Re: How long can a processor last, at 90% ?

    Thanks both.

    Just wondering: If the temperature is within the normal, could it work fine at 90%? . Because it seems to me that the percentage does not matter as much as the temperature, Am I right in assuming that?

    Again: Thanks a lot for your replies.

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    uk_network
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    #307939

    Re: How long can a processor last, at 90% ?

    You should be fine.

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    shefi
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    #379779

    Re: How long can a processor last, at 90% ?

    I see. Thanks a lot UK_network.

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    biggles77
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    Re: How long can a processor last, at 90% ?

    If you are concerned about the temperature then you could consider using a Laptop Cooling Pad. I have used a similar one on a laptop that ran hot and it pulled the temp down to a normal range.

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    shefi
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    #379781

    Re: How long can a processor last, at 90% ?

    Thanks Biggles77, that’d be a good option, because the laptop is only one year old.

    Thanks!

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    shefi
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    #379782

    Re: How long can a processor last, at 90% ?

    Can’t believe my eyes.

    I have just installed a software to monitor my 2 cpu , and right now while I am writing this it says: 89 ºC .

    I have just started the laptop half an hour ago, and this laptop is new, one year old. :sad:

    Thanks a lot.

    EDITION:

    I have come across a link where it is indicated the max cpu temperature of my cpu:

    http://www.game-debate.com/hardware/index.php?pid=962&cpu=APU%20E1-1200%20Dual%20Core

    I found another web site also indicating that 100 ºC is the maxim temperature for this cpu (Amd E1-1200).

    Right now the temp is 94 ºC.

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    James Haynes
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    Re: How long can a processor last, at 90% ?

    sometimes the people/factories that put the units together buy their lithium paste in bulk and its not the highest quality, per se…

    so if you had the ability and some good thermaltake Li paste, you can reapply a new layer to the CPU and GPU (if you have the graphis card in your model) to help dissipate the heat a little better.

    i had a laptop that had an ATI card that got so damn hot you couldnt technically call it a LAPtop, because you had to put in on a countertop to use it for any period of time.

    once getting at the GPU, i could see that there was very little paste remaining (if it was ever there in the first place!) and what was left had the viscosity of pancake syrup. no bueno…

    a new application of high quality thermal paste reduced the heat from running at 89+c back down to ~73c.

    plus i cleaned the fan blades on the intakes and cleaned the (fan)screens and such.

    so its not so much the utilization of the CPU that will kill the part, its the heat generated by all that usage that kills the chips.

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    biggles77
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    Re: How long can a processor last, at 90% ?

    I have never used Thermaltake Li paste as I have always used Artic Silver. How does it compare to the Artic Silver (sorry loureed4, going a bit :offtopic: here)?

    If the laptop is still under warranty see if you can an extra year to the warranty, then hammer it and see if the CPU cooks. What is the idle temp? What is the CPU temp when you look at the BIOS settings? AMDs and heat are a reason I never purchase them. The Intel ones have a thermal shutdown when they get too hot.

    What is the make & model of this laptop? Curious as to what runs that hot and by all accounts it should NOT be running that hot unless the CPU is under a very intense load.

    I am running an i5-2540M @ around 9% load and the temp is 44°C. 15% takes it up to 49°C. I do not think even an AMD should be running as hot as yours, unless it is under extreme load and the room temperature is normal Spanish summer temps.

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    James Haynes
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    Re: How long can a processor last, at 90% ?

    biggles77;285760 wrote:
    I have never used Thermaltake Li paste as I have always used Artic Silver. How does it compare to the Artic Silver (sorry loureed4, going a bit :offtopic: here)?

    i guess im just showing my age… i guess everyone prefers the artic silver these days. it actually does cool slightly better than thermal take. some people claim up to a 3c difference in as5 grease alone.

    no matter what brand you choose (and i would only choose from those two) dont ever pick the radio shack kind… called volcano lava, cause thats what your heatsink is going to feel like if you brush your hand against it while your playing CoD5!

    seriously, might as well use peanut oil and make some fries if your gonna use the radio shack stuff…

    semi-off-topic, but kinda on-topicish sorta. :razz:

    tehcamel
    tehcamel
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    #359781

    Re: How long can a processor last, at 90% ?

    completely off-topic, but I remember being on a training course (and it wasn’t actually a cisco course.)

    guy was talking about a server room, the air con had gone off, something something, i don’t fully remember
    with all the shit running in the room, it kept getting hotter and hotter
    but it all kept running.
    Ambient temp in the room got fairly high – 60 ot 70 degrees, and then things started shutting down

    apparently, according to their monitoring (temperature, not just systems) – the ambient got as high as 80 degrees. the physical temp on some of the cisco gear got up to the high 90s, but it was still doing it’s thing, still working, even when all the server kit had shutdown (or overheated)

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    shefi
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    Re: How long can a processor last, at 90% ?

    Thanks!

    Now there is a reason for the laptop to get so hot: 5 VMWares running on it. Then it gets at 94-95 ºC . The maximum is 100 ºC according to what I read in several websites talking about my processor ( AMD Dual Core E1-1200)

    My laptop: Packard Bell EasyNote TE. I bought last year , 2013.

    The idle temp is okay, 50ºC .

    I wonder: Is it too bad to be running at 94ºC? . Because I am studying Active Directory, Exchange and others and need these VMWares to be running on a daily basis, and most of the day, almost all day long.

    Sorry for my English but, what does “hammer it and see if the CPU cooks” mean? . I am Spanish.

    THANKS A LOT !

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    James Haynes
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    Re: How long can a processor last, at 90% ?

    loureed4;285844 wrote:
    Sorry for my English but, what does “hammer it and see if the CPU cooks” mean? . I am Spanish.

    THANKS A LOT !

    it means to put a very heavy load on it intentionally to see what happens to the temp. its called stress testing…

    AIDA64: http://www.aida64.com/downloads

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    biggles77
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    Re: How long can a processor last, at 90% ?

    Sorry for the confusion loureed4 and thank you James for explaining what I meant.

    I think the idle temp look too high but that may be an AMD thing. My i5 idles around 34°C and has never been about 60°C but then I have only been running 2 or 3 VMs.

    Suggest you post on the Packard Bell forums and see if your idle temperature is normal.

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    shefi
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    Re: How long can a processor last, at 90% ?

    Thanks!.

    Yes, I will post it on the Packard Bell forums, I had not thought of that !

    Thanks for the explanation about “hammer and cook the cpu”.

    An update:

    I have just started the laptop and already 77 ºC , and only Fireforx on !! .

    Yesterday I was in the same situation almost all day long: Only firefox and 90ºC !! , I see that a little too close to the maximum 100ºC .

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    Ossian
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    #189835

    Re: How long can a processor last, at 90% ?

    Can you sort out processor utilisation (measured in % and obviously a maximum of 100) and processor Temperature (in Celcius and not necessarily limited to 100)

    Initially you were talking about processor utilisation, but the discussion has moved fairly seamlessly to temperature.

    (There is a relationship – the more work, the more power and therefore the higher the temperature, but I am wondering if you are mixing up the two)

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    shefi
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    Re: How long can a processor last, at 90% ?

    Thanks Ossian.

    Yes, the discussion moved to processor temperature because I thought that that could lead to damage.

    Right now: Only Firefox and 95% processor utilization!! . I am going to restart the laptop to see if it keeps on happening, since it is not normal!!.

    A process called “System” takes up 84% of the processor, but Avast Antitivus says nothing.

    I will restart the laptop and come back here.

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    shefi
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    #379791

    Re: How long can a processor last, at 90% ?

    Laptop just restarted:

    90-94ºC , temperature of the two processors.

    the percentage of processor utilisation goes up and down from 40% to 90% in the blink of an eye, can’t figure out why.

    Unbeliavable.

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    Ossian
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    #189836

    Re: How long can a processor last, at 90% ?

    Are the virtual machines running when you get the high utilisation?

    Suggest you start in safe mode (minimal processes running) and check statistics then, then add other startup items (use MSCONFIG to enable/disable) to see what is eating your computer

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    shefi
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    #379792

    Re: How long can a processor last, at 90% ?

    Thanks Ossian.

    No, the virtual machines are off, that is the “funny” part. :sad:

    Yesterday or the day before yesterday I had 5 vmware machines on and the processor utilisation was almost the same, 90, 95%, and also 90ºC, but then that is normal under such conditions.

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    biggles77
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    Re: How long can a processor last, at 90% ?

    Have you run Malwarebytes, Hitman Pro to check for infections. Also a couple of free online virus scanners would be an idea. Alternatively, if you can backup all your data and settings do a Factory Default restore then reinstall everything clean. This would hopefully clear any malicious infections you might have on your laptop.

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    shefi
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    #379793

    Re: How long can a processor last, at 90% ?

    Thanks Biggles77.

    Now it is running at average 64ºC, only firefox on, this looks reasonable to me, but this morning, 90ºC when I just started it up. Odd behaviour!.

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    biggles77
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    #213254

    Re: How long can a processor last, at 90% ?

    Hey Luis, how did you get on with this recalcitrant processor? Is it still running hot? Did you manage to get the Laptop Cooling Pad and if so did it make a difference?

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