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  • Help in Planning Virtual Lab for Studying Purpose

    Hi Guys,

    I want to plan a Virtual Lab using either MS Virtual P.C or VMWare Workstation "Looking for good permormance". what you suggest?


    I have two machines, one Desktop and the other is Notebook I'll use it to access remotely to the Virtual Machines.

    The configuration of the Desktop is as follows:

    C.P.U: 1.8 Mhz X86
    RAM: SDRAM 768 MB
    Cache Mem: 1mb
    HDD:80 GB
    Pentium 4

    IS this cofigurations suffecient to build minimum 4 host 2003 Server machines?

    And what is the minimum RAM I should give the guest OS and the Host OS ?

    The servers that will be:
    1. DC & Exchange
    2. ISA
    3. XP

    Thanx in advance for your reply.

    Habibalby
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    HND: Higher National Diploma in
    Computer Science(IT)


    Passed:
    MCSA+Security 2003, VCP3, VCP4
    Done:VMware DSA
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  • #2
    Re: Help in Planning Virtual Lab for Studying Purpose

    I would add more RAM to the machine if you could. Try and get to at least 2GB.

    You only have 768MB.

    Remove at least 256MB for the main OS, presuming XP.

    Split the remaining 512MB into 4 gives 128MB.

    Makes for extremely slow 2003 Servers.

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    • #3
      Re: Help in Planning Virtual Lab for Studying Purpose

      Thanx for your reply wullieb1, actually I would input more RAM, but the problem is SDRAMs are not available in the Market any more. And this P.C is having only three slots.

      Thanks for your help once again.

      BR,

      habibalby
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      Computer Science(IT)


      Passed:
      MCSA+Security 2003, VCP3, VCP4
      Done:VMware DSA
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      • #4
        Re: Help in Planning Virtual Lab for Studying Purpose

        Ebay is a great source for older IT equipment.

        Can your motherboard handle 1GB sticks??

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        • #5
          Re: Help in Planning Virtual Lab for Studying Purpose

          Yes mate, it can handle maximum up tp 3 GB, here's the System Specs.
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          • #6
            Re: Help in Planning Virtual Lab for Studying Purpose

            Originally posted by habibalby
            Yes mate, it can handle maximum up tp 3 GB, here's the System Specs.
            There's your answer then.

            Hunt eBay in your region for 1GB sticks of PC133 SDRAM.

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            • #7
              Re: Help in Planning Virtual Lab for Studying Purpose

              Originally posted by wullieb1
              I would add more RAM to the machine if you could. Try and get to at least 2GB.

              You only have 768MB.

              Remove at least 256MB for the main OS, presuming XP.

              Split the remaining 512MB into 4 gives 128MB.

              Makes for extremely slow 2003 Servers.
              Haven't looked for the reference to post, but doesn't 2003 server require 256MB as a minimum? Also the specs of the Acer say upto 1.7 P4. I think that is a tad slow if you want to run a virtual network. Where's Jason when we need him?
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              • #8
                Re: Help in Planning Virtual Lab for Studying Purpose

                biggles77,

                U mean to say, even i add 1 GB ram it will not be good ?

                Thnaks,

                Habibalby
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                Computer Science(IT)


                Passed:
                MCSA+Security 2003, VCP3, VCP4
                Done:VMware DSA
                ================================[/COLOR]

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                • #9
                  Re: Help in Planning Virtual Lab for Studying Purpose

                  Originally posted by habibalby
                  biggles77,

                  U mean to say, even i add 1 GB ram it will not be good ?

                  Thnaks,

                  Habibalby
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                  • #10
                    Re: Help in Planning Virtual Lab for Studying Purpose

                    To optimize your Computer for Virtual Machine (i prefere free vmware server) you need RAM but also HDD.

                    Your CPU can handle 3 - 4 virtual machines (for test purpose). Amount of ram will increase performace of virtual machines.

                    I prefere you to buy 2 x 80gb HDD and configure them as Strip (software raid) and use that drive for virtual memory and to install virtual machines.
                    Arber I. Ibrahimi

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                    • #11
                      Re: Help in Planning Virtual Lab for Studying Purpose

                      hi arberibrahimi,

                      Thank you for you reply, I'll check that out, but still my issue is the RAM even from ebay I cannot buy them unless i open an Accoount in Aramex or DHL and they will buy them from me.

                      While opening an Account with DHL or Aramex is much expensive than the Actual RAM price

                      I'll try to find here and there to solve this problem by looking to put atleast 1 GB ram.

                      BR,

                      Habibalby
                      ================================
                      HND: Higher National Diploma in
                      Computer Science(IT)


                      Passed:
                      MCSA+Security 2003, VCP3, VCP4
                      Done:VMware DSA
                      ================================[/COLOR]

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                      • #12
                        Re: Help in Planning Virtual Lab for Studying Purpose

                        Just to give you an idea of performance with Virtual Server or VMware server, I have a laptop running at 3Ghz and 1GB of RAM.

                        With a single virtual machine running and using 256MB of RAM, it runs fine. That is leaving 768MB for the OS. When I start a second virtual machine with 256MB (leaving 512MB for the OS), I start to see obvious delays in the applications I am running on the host system (just regular stuff like web browsing and email).

                        For a VM to run decent, I would try to allocate at lease 256MB.

                        For a production server with 4 VM's, at my office - we use a Dell dual processor, RAID 1 mirrored drives and 2GB of RAM. That runs good. For a test system, you can scale down from there but the more you take off the slower it will run (especially the RAM). Of course, the servers on our prouduction system all have low performance requirements (like print server or Citrix server for 2 users or AV server). I certainly couldn't put file or email servers on a virtual server like the one described. Now, I could do that with VMWARE ESX and a larger machine....

                        Best of luck to you and Thanks for posting!

                        David
                        Last edited by daviddavis; 6th October 2006, 17:36.
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                        • #13
                          Re: Help in Planning Virtual Lab for Studying Purpose

                          hi David,

                          Thank you very much for your reply however, all what i want to make is just for testing for my studies and training.

                          Next week I will be having 2GB of RAM and I'll start planing and documenting what excatly will be and each function of the machines just to save little bandwidth and increase the speed of the processing.

                          BR,

                          Habibalby
                          ================================
                          HND: Higher National Diploma in
                          Computer Science(IT)


                          Passed:
                          MCSA+Security 2003, VCP3, VCP4
                          Done:VMware DSA
                          ================================[/COLOR]

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                          • #14
                            Re: Help in Planning Virtual Lab for Studying Purpose

                            HI habibalby

                            I can see for testing purposes that you might be willing to give up some performance. Let us know how it goes with the 2GB of RAM. I'm curious to find out how many you feel that you can run.

                            Thanks for the post!
                            David
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                            • #15
                              Re: Help in Planning Virtual Lab for Studying Purpose

                              Morning David,

                              Till now i didn't get the 2 GB Ram, but what i have done is prepared everything on the 768 MB RAM.

                              Installed Win2k3 Standard Edition to be the host OS. Role = DC, DNS, Exchange, IAS.

                              Then installed VMWare Server and on top of that installed two guest OS also Win2k3.
                              One is ISA 2004 with 256 RAM and the other one is F/E Exchange Server 2003 with 128 MB RAM in the DMZ Zone. ISA is taking care of this routing and Natting.

                              Well, let me be honest with you the preformance of these machines when I'm setting Physically on the main machine and try to play around with the Guest OS's I can see the slowness of these machines even the Host machine as well.

                              But when I access Remotely to each one with separate session from my Notebook, then I feel little slow only not that much. Anyway the more RAM is available the better performance will be getting.

                              BR,

                              Habibalby
                              ================================
                              HND: Higher National Diploma in
                              Computer Science(IT)


                              Passed:
                              MCSA+Security 2003, VCP3, VCP4
                              Done:VMware DSA
                              ================================[/COLOR]

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