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    Hi,

    i'm having a vpn connection pb between win 2000 and 2003.

    my pb is that i succeed to ping the two machines via the vpn (two routers) only that i don't see the workgroup.

    can someon please tell me where the pb can come from ?

    Thanks allot.

  • #2
    Re: VPN pb

    What is a pb?
    1 1 was a racehorse.
    2 2 was 1 2.
    1 1 1 1 race 1 day,
    2 2 1 1 2

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    • #3
      Re: VPN pb

      i succeed to ping the private and public addresses between the two sites only that i can't see the workgroup computers under my network places.

      thanks.

      P.S : if the vpn srver and client are in the router do i need to set up a dial up connection on the computer as well ???
      Last edited by aelekx; 14th September 2005, 14:10.

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      • #4
        Re: VPN pb

        >> i can't see the workgroup computers under my network places
        why do you want this???

        the problem is that there not in the same broadcast domain, so they will not be seen.

        (as fas as i know about it)
        Marcel
        Technical Consultant
        Netherlands
        http://www.phetios.com
        http://blog.nessus.nl

        MCITP(EA, SA), MCSA/E 2003:Security, CCNA, SNAF, DCUCI, CCSA/E/E+ (R60), VCP4/5, NCDA, NCIE - SAN, NCIE - BR, EMCPE
        "No matter how secure, there is always the human factor."

        "Enjoy life today, tomorrow may never come."
        "If you're going through hell, keep going. ~Winston Churchill"

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        • #5
          Re: VPN pb

          what does it mean not in the same broadcast domain ? i can ping without pb private and public addresses. is there anything to do about it ? how can i configure it to work than?

          thanks
          Last edited by aelekx; 14th September 2005, 18:30.

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          • #6
            Re: VPN pb

            routers usally won't pass broadcast domains.
            it's has nothing to do with icmp traffic (eg ping)

            http://www.google.nl/search?hl=nl&q=...t+domain&meta=
            Marcel
            Technical Consultant
            Netherlands
            http://www.phetios.com
            http://blog.nessus.nl

            MCITP(EA, SA), MCSA/E 2003:Security, CCNA, SNAF, DCUCI, CCSA/E/E+ (R60), VCP4/5, NCDA, NCIE - SAN, NCIE - BR, EMCPE
            "No matter how secure, there is always the human factor."

            "Enjoy life today, tomorrow may never come."
            "If you're going through hell, keep going. ~Winston Churchill"

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            • #7
              Re: VPN pb

              thanks for the answer,

              i'm usin ipsec as protocol for the vpn.
              i know that it suppose to work that way. how can if the domain is a broadcast domain or not ???

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              • #8
                Re: VPN pb

                first read the articles posted in the google link.
                maybe that explains to you what a broadcast domain is...
                Marcel
                Technical Consultant
                Netherlands
                http://www.phetios.com
                http://blog.nessus.nl

                MCITP(EA, SA), MCSA/E 2003:Security, CCNA, SNAF, DCUCI, CCSA/E/E+ (R60), VCP4/5, NCDA, NCIE - SAN, NCIE - BR, EMCPE
                "No matter how secure, there is always the human factor."

                "Enjoy life today, tomorrow may never come."
                "If you're going through hell, keep going. ~Winston Churchill"

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                • #9
                  Re: VPN pb

                  Well, i have read the google article.
                  i'm just in my microsoft training so that i don't understand really what they speak about.

                  how can i define a non broadcast domain or configure my routers to transfer broadcast traffic ???

                  Thanks again.

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                  • #10
                    Re: VPN pb

                    From the first url where google come:
                    http://www.linktionary.com/b/broadcast_domain.html

                    If multiple LANs are connected with routers, the router forms the boundary of the broadcast domain. Broadcast traffic and collision signals do not cross routers, although most routers can be configured to forward specific broadcast traffic.
                    second:
                    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadcast_domain
                    A broadcast domain is a logical area in a computer network where any computer connected to the computer network can directly transmit to any other in the domain without having to go through a routing device.

                    but you still doens't answer my first question.
                    Why do you want to see them in my network places?
                    It doesn't has exually any use imho..

                    Originally posted by aelekx
                    how can i define a non broadcast domain
                    sorry this question i don't really understand.


                    Originally posted by aelekx
                    or configure my routers to transfer broadcast traffic ???
                    Thanks again.
                    It depends which routers you're using. not all the routers can do the job.
                    Last edited by Dumber; 15th September 2005, 10:26.
                    Marcel
                    Technical Consultant
                    Netherlands
                    http://www.phetios.com
                    http://blog.nessus.nl

                    MCITP(EA, SA), MCSA/E 2003:Security, CCNA, SNAF, DCUCI, CCSA/E/E+ (R60), VCP4/5, NCDA, NCIE - SAN, NCIE - BR, EMCPE
                    "No matter how secure, there is always the human factor."

                    "Enjoy life today, tomorrow may never come."
                    "If you're going through hell, keep going. ~Winston Churchill"

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                    • #11
                      Re: VPN pb

                      Marcel thanks.

                      well, lets say than that the router doesn't pass the broadcast info. which effect it has on how my network behaves ? i won't be able to share info between the two networks ?

                      as for the my network places question, i just want to see my second network in. it's an exercise which i have in my course so i'm just giving you a situation that i need to solve.

                      Thanks again for the help.

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                      • #12
                        Re: VPN pb

                        Originally posted by aelekx
                        well, lets say than that the router doesn't pass the broadcast info. which effect it has on how my network behaves ? i won't be able to share info between the two networks ?
                        Yes, you can share the information. this Setup is mostly done with Branch offices.
                        just type at the remote site \\servername\share and you're done (of course with the correct permissions and so on). also you can share things like mail and internet connections without any problem.

                        Originally posted by aelekx
                        as for the my network places question, i just want to see my second network in. it's an exercise which i have in my course so i'm just giving you a situation that i need to solve.
                        It cannot be done if the routers doesn't support broadcast traffic passtrough.
                        Marcel
                        Technical Consultant
                        Netherlands
                        http://www.phetios.com
                        http://blog.nessus.nl

                        MCITP(EA, SA), MCSA/E 2003:Security, CCNA, SNAF, DCUCI, CCSA/E/E+ (R60), VCP4/5, NCDA, NCIE - SAN, NCIE - BR, EMCPE
                        "No matter how secure, there is always the human factor."

                        "Enjoy life today, tomorrow may never come."
                        "If you're going through hell, keep going. ~Winston Churchill"

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                        • #13
                          Re: VPN pb

                          Marcel,

                          again thanks alot, i'll try that and see what's going on.

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