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    I would like to provide shared hosted SBS 2011 services to some smaller customers. Do you know of a guide to do this?

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    Re: Multi tanant SBS 2011

    so you would want all the hosted companies to authenticate to te same domain?
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    • #3
      Re: Multi tanant SBS 2011

      Yes, i have a general domain for the server but i want to make sure that the occupants of the server have no knowledge that there are multiple companies on the same server.

      Multiple GALs
      Multiple sharepointsites
      Multiple UPNs
      Hidden shares (escpecially in Remote Web)

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      • #4
        Re: Multi tanant SBS 2011

        I'm almost certain you won't be able to this with SBS - because it's not designed for.

        you'd need to look at something like full blown server.
        (of course, I'm happy for someone to come and tell me I'm wrong)
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        • #5
          Re: Multi tanant SBS 2011

          i think it can be done, underneath SBS 2011 is still the same as a regular install with only a limit in on the number of users and that it's an all in one box with lots of automated systems. There are workarounds however.

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          • #6
            Re: Multi tanant SBS 2011

            There are workarounds, sure, but if you're referring for example to workarounds to the user limit, then you'd be in breach of the EULA. Before discussing any workarounds to limitations of SBS or indeed any other product, I would recommend that you familiarise yourself with the forum rules, in particular rule 9.

            Regarding your original query, I would suggest that this is something you should engage an SBS consultant for. Since this is going to be the foundation of your business model, getting the right information for your needs is absolutely vital.
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            • #7
              Re: Multi tanant SBS 2011

              No, i'm not trying to increase the numbers of users, i don't even want more then 50 users on a SBS server.

              I have a site with smaller offices, mainly startups with 2-5 employees per company and there are about 6 of them. They all want to chip in and buy one server for the lot and share it.

              Originally posted by gforceindustries View Post
              There are workarounds, sure, but if you're referring for example to workarounds to the user limit, then you'd be in breach of the EULA. Before discussing any workarounds to limitations of SBS or indeed any other product, I would recommend that you familiarise yourself with the forum rules, in particular rule 9.

              Regarding your original query, I would suggest that this is something you should engage an SBS consultant for. Since this is going to be the foundation of your business model, getting the right information for your needs is absolutely vital.

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              • #8
                Re: Multi tanant SBS 2011

                You aren't allowed to do this under the terms of Microsoft licencing.
                If you want to provide hosted "whatever" you need to have a SPLA from Microsoft.

                Furthermore, there is currently no supported method to do what you want outside of the full product, so you are on your own.

                Microsoft have a special version of Exchange 2010 for hosters, which is what you should be using.

                Doesn't matter whether it is 1 user or 60, the same rules and licencing apply.

                Personally, I wouldn't bother. Get a white label Exchange host, so that you don't have to worry about the maintenance. You can put it under your own brand, and charge whatever you like.

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                • #9
                  Re: Multi tanant SBS 2011

                  Originally posted by Sembee View Post
                  You aren't allowed to do this under the terms of Microsoft licencing.
                  Where does it say that this is not allowed????
                  I can't find that anywhere.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Multi tanant SBS 2011

                    You have read all 600 odd pages of Microsoft licencing?

                    It will come under the reselling/sub leasing etc type clauses.

                    if it was allowed, then Microsoft wouldn't have introduced SPLA which requires you to make monthly payments.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Multi tanant SBS 2011

                      In the SPLA version the hardware and software are owned bij the hostingparty. They rent it out to third partys.

                      In my case the server and software are bought by the rentersassociation of a building. They are in fact the endusers.

                      If you follow this link it goes to the licensing page of SBS 2011.
                      http://www.microsoft.com/sbs/en/us/licensing.aspx

                      They are talking about users. You need a CAL for every user. There is noware a definition that claims all users must be part of the same organisation.

                      There is a pdf with licencing faqs on that same page.
                      http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...ensing_FAQ.pdf

                      It's 20 pages and i read them all.
                      Q. I want to allow remote access to several individuals who are not employees. Do I have to acquire CALs for them to use Outlook Web Access or Remote Web Workplace?
                      A. Yes. When a user authenticates against the server, a SBS CAL Suite is required. In addition, the use of Outlook requires an additional license in order to be in compliance with the license agreement.

                      Everyone has there own Outlook so that's no issue either.
                      Last edited by jantje.vlaam; 8th March 2011, 13:06. Reason: Looked for more licencing info

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                      • #12
                        Re: Multi tanant SBS 2011

                        In your first post, you stated:

                        Originally posted by jantje.vlaam View Post
                        I would like to provide shared hosted SBS 2011 services to some smaller customers.
                        To do what you described then, you would need the SPLA licence.

                        To do what you are describing now, you do not necessarily need one - someone more experienced than myself will be able to advise better than I can.

                        Regardless of what information you get on this forum though, anything to do with licensing you really should get in writing from a consultant or reseller. A forum post, even if it's from an MVP, would not hold any water.
                        Gareth Howells

                        BSc (Hons), MBCS, MCP, MCDST, ICCE

                        Any advice is given in good faith and without warranty.

                        Please give reputation points if somebody has helped you.

                        "For by now I could have stretched out my hand and struck you and your people with a plague that would have wiped you off the Earth." (Exodus 9:15) - I could kill you with my thumb.

                        "Everything that lives and moves will be food for you." (Genesis 9:3) - For every animal you don't eat, I'm going to eat three.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Multi tanant SBS 2011

                          I am pretty sure that Microsoft wouldn't allow people to share their software with other non-related companies, where you are charging them for that use.

                          However the only people who can answer that question are Microsoft. No one on a forum is qualified to answer the question on licencing. You will need to contact them and ask them to answer the question in writing.

                          However remember the three rules of Microsoft licencing.

                          1. Ask at least three people because you will get three or more answers.
                          2. Get it in writing.
                          3. Whichever is the most expensive option, will be the correct one.

                          To go back to the original question - there is currently no GAL segregation for Exchange 2010 supported by Microsoft. Furthermore when they do release the GAL segregation it is not designed for a hosting type platform which is what you are proposing to do. For the kind of segregation that you want to do you need to use full product, on the hosting platform, and that will mean SPLA. Doesn't matter how you dress it up, you want to use Microsoft's software you play by their rules.

                          Otherwise go to Zimbra, I am sure they will have something that works for you.

                          Simon.
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                          • #14
                            Re: Multi tanant SBS 2011

                            I agree with the three rules!

                            I'm also a SPLA partner, i know when to use this type of licencing and when i can use OEM licences.
                            In this case all the renters in the building are united into a group (which is a legal identity). This group puchases the server, software and pays for the maintenance and implementation.

                            The two problems i have left, i fixed a lot already, are:

                            Sharepoint per company
                            Seperate GAL per company

                            now i hide everyone from the GAL.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Multi tanant SBS 2011

                              I would still strongly suggest speaking to Microsoft regarding licensing SBS for usage in this scenario.
                              Gareth Howells

                              BSc (Hons), MBCS, MCP, MCDST, ICCE

                              Any advice is given in good faith and without warranty.

                              Please give reputation points if somebody has helped you.

                              "For by now I could have stretched out my hand and struck you and your people with a plague that would have wiped you off the Earth." (Exodus 9:15) - I could kill you with my thumb.

                              "Everything that lives and moves will be food for you." (Genesis 9:3) - For every animal you don't eat, I'm going to eat three.

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