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  • SBS 2008: Can't See Network Computers

    I've just ''finished'' migrating from Server 2003 to a new SBS 2008 machine and I'm having some issues with network connectivity.

    I can see the new server from all the other computers on the domain and even access shared files that reside on the new servers disk but i can't see any computers in the network tab on my SBS 2008 machine, i just see the server itself and a few printers we have installed.

    Also I can't complete the "Add a new shared folder" wizard from the Shared Folders tab, when i select browse on the first page it comes up with an error saying the "Network path cannot be found".
    I think this problem is somehow related.

    Also another related problem, I can only see 5 networked computers under the Netowrk>Computers tab even though there is about 15 computers attached.

    Any help is appreciated

  • #2
    Re: SBS 2008: Can't See Network Computers

    How did you do the migration? By (A) using Swing, or (B) by installing the new server as a new domain and copying everything across, or (C) by following the Micrsoft SBS 2008 Migration Wizard?

    Have you done Windows Update yet?

    When I completed my migration using the MS Wizard, I had the same error and it was because the new server was not advertising. Run the following diagnostic commands (in a command prompt which you must run as an Administrator) to see what results each of the commands below give you:

    dcdiag
    netdom query fsmo
    nltest /dsgetdc:yourdomainname.local

    When you have run dcdiag, scroll right up to the top and near the beginning find "Advertising" and see if it passed this test, and others in that list.
    Best wishes,
    PaulH.
    MCP:Server 2003; MCITP:Server 2008; MCTS: SBS2008

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    • #3
      Re: SBS 2008: Can't See Network Computers

      Thanks for the reply,

      I chose option C) SBS Migration wizard

      Sounded like a really good idea when i started but I'm now thinking it would have been easier to do a clean install!

      Updates are all installed.

      I ran those commands and everything bar a few items in dcdiag came up as passed, including the advertising.

      The error which it did throw up are: (GOD is the name of the new server)
      Code:
      Directory Server Diagnosis
      
      Performing initial setup:
         Trying to find home server...
         Home Server = GOD
         * Identified AD Forest.
         Done gathering initial info.
      
      Doing initial required tests
      
         Testing server: Default-First-Site-Name\GOD
            Starting test: Connectivity
               ......................... GOD passed test Connectivity
      
      Doing primary tests
      
         Testing server: Default-First-Site-Name\GOD
            Starting test: Advertising
               ......................... GOD passed test Advertising
            Starting test: FrsEvent
               There are warning or error events within the last 24 hours after the
               SYSVOL has been shared.  Failing SYSVOL replication problems may cause
               Group Policy problems.
               ......................... GOD passed test FrsEvent
            Starting test: DFSREvent
               ......................... GOD passed test DFSREvent
            Starting test: SysVolCheck
               [GOD] An net use or LsaPolicy operation failed with error 53,
               Win32 Error 53.
               ......................... GOD failed test SysVolCheck
            Starting test: KccEvent
               ......................... GOD passed test KccEvent
            Starting test: KnowsOfRoleHolders
               ......................... GOD passed test KnowsOfRoleHolders
            Starting test: MachineAccount
               Could not open pipe with [GOD]:failed with 53: Win32 Error 53
               Could not get NetBIOSDomainName
               Failed can not test for HOST SPN
               Failed can not test for HOST SPN
               ......................... GOD passed test MachineAccount
            Starting test: NCSecDesc
               Error NT AUTHORITY\ENTERPRISE DOMAIN CONTROLLERS doesn't have
                  Replicating Directory Changes In Filtered Set
               access rights for the naming context:
               DC=ForestDnsZones,DC=company,DC=local
               Error NT AUTHORITY\ENTERPRISE DOMAIN CONTROLLERS doesn't have
                  Replicating Directory Changes In Filtered Set
               access rights for the naming context:
               DC=DomainDnsZones,DC=company,DC=local
               ......................... GOD failed test NCSecDesc
            Starting test: NetLogons
               [GOD] An net use or LsaPolicy operation failed with error 53,
               Win32 Error 53.
               ......................... GOD failed test NetLogons
            Starting test: ObjectsReplicated
               ......................... GOD passed test ObjectsReplicated
            Starting test: Replications
               ......................... GOD passed test Replications
            Starting test: RidManager
               ......................... GOD passed test RidManager
            Starting test: Services
               Could not open Remote ipc to [GOD.company.local]: error 0x35
               "Win32 Error 53"
               ......................... GOD failed test Services
            Starting test: SystemLog
               ......................... GOD passed test SystemLog
            Starting test: VerifyReferences
               ......................... GOD passed test VerifyReferences
      
      
         Running partition tests on : ForestDnsZones
            Starting test: CheckSDRefDom
               ......................... ForestDnsZones passed test CheckSDRefDom
            Starting test: CrossRefValidation
               ......................... ForestDnsZones passed test
               CrossRefValidation
      
         Running partition tests on : DomainDnsZones
            Starting test: CheckSDRefDom
               ......................... DomainDnsZones passed test CheckSDRefDom
            Starting test: CrossRefValidation
               ......................... DomainDnsZones passed test
               CrossRefValidation
      
         Running partition tests on : Schema
            Starting test: CheckSDRefDom
               ......................... Schema passed test CheckSDRefDom
            Starting test: CrossRefValidation
               ......................... Schema passed test CrossRefValidation
      
         Running partition tests on : Configuration
            Starting test: CheckSDRefDom
               ......................... Configuration passed test CheckSDRefDom
            Starting test: CrossRefValidation
               ......................... Configuration passed test CrossRefValidation
      
         Running partition tests on : company
            Starting test: CheckSDRefDom
               ......................... company passed test CheckSDRefDom
            Starting test: CrossRefValidation
               ......................... company passed test CrossRefValidation
      
         Running enterprise tests on : company.local
            Starting test: LocatorCheck
               ......................... company.local passed test LocatorCheck
            Starting test: Intersite
               ......................... company.local passed test Intersite

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      • #4
        Re: SBS 2008: Can't See Network Computers

        I agree with you - I now believe in a clean install every time. I tried a (C) Migration Wizard as well, it took ages at one point, it said it was taking longer than expected and did I want to continue waiting. This symptom is due to incorrect permissions, and there is, I believe, a Microsoft hotfix for it but even so if you hit this problem you have to start from scratch all over again.

        What worries me in your dcdiag is the failures on specifically NetBIOS name, SYsVol and Netlogon checks. SOp those few errors in dcdiag I think could be pretty major.

        I had no sysvol or netlogon folder when I browsed to \\servername - do you have these folders? If not, they can be rebuilt following the steps at http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315457

        However, I am not confident it will fix things totally for you due to the lack of NetBIOS name etc (there are some replication issues in dcdiag that are concerning).

        When I hit this kind of thing, on the surface things looked fine but when I tried to achieve anything (e.g. GPO) I got that not found error you mentioned.

        I wiped and started over with a clean install. But be aware that the old server is stuck in Migration mode - you won't get anything out of Exchange from it but you can still copy files across. Actually, I didn't need to copy files across because they were all on the D: drive and I only wiped the C: drive to reinstall SBS as clean onto C leaving D alone, (but your setup may differ of course).
        Best wishes,
        PaulH.
        MCP:Server 2003; MCITP:Server 2008; MCTS: SBS2008

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        • #5
          Re: SBS 2008: Can't See Network Computers

          For the time being the server is doing exactly what the last server did just a bit faster so it's not so much a problem.

          The Sysvol and NETLOGON folders exist but i did notice i was unable to create a GPO to map network drives on logon, but i just used a .bat instead.

          I think Microsoft needs to sort migration out or atleast warn people that its a half-cocked method for transfering settings over.

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          • #6
            Re: SBS 2008: Can't See Network Computers

            hi guys

            well i just tried to do the sbs migration on a lab invironment
            i expexcted to have a problem - and sure did
            even that out on the sourface it seems to work fine
            like, ad opens, and the new sbs declar as role holder
            undernise there are event error, computers not managed...

            but since we are talking about migrate to sbs
            it meens that we have less then 75 users
            i currently have 30

            and i just wonted to see how the migration wizard work
            this thread of yours point me to clean install for sure

            yet,
            sorry for your trobulles

            btw
            i am not sure that ms, support this migration
            from server 2003 to sbs 2008
            only from sbs 2003 to sbs 2008

            if i am wrong, i will be happy to know

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            • #7
              Re: SBS 2008: Can't See Network Computers

              AFAIK Server 2003 to SBS 2008 is definitely a supported scenario.
              TIA

              Steven Teiger [SBS-MVP(2003-2009)]
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