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  • Migrate existing Win2k3 Std domain to SBS 2003 ?

    We have an existing network with Win 2k3 Server Standard on 1 box, 2k3 Enterprise on another 2 boxes. It consists of web server, sql server and DC/DNS.

    Is it practical to add a SBS 2003 box and replace the existing DC/DNS?

    The only reason I have this thought is because SBS 2003 packs more stuff in it and is easier to use.

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    Re: Migrate existing Win2k3 Std domain to SBS 2003 ?

    Are you less than 75 users and will you be for the forseeable future? Do you want to replace your Standard 2K3 DC? Then SBS MAYBE a solution for you.
    You would need to tell us a LOT more about what your company does in order to advise you what your needs are - or maybe a forum such as this may not be the best place to discuss it. A partner/consultant who can go into more detail about your business maybe a better option.
    TIA

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    • #3
      Re: Migrate existing Win2k3 Std domain to SBS 2003 ?

      We have about 15 users / 20 computers in the company.

      Our company does ecommerce retail & wholesale of auto parts / accessories, and our website is hosted in house on our own server.

      we have limited resources on IT tech stuff, it's very expensive to get consultation and not to mention some companies don't know what they are doing, forums is still the best place.


      Yes I want to replace my standard 2k3 DC with SBS 2003, and I want to add ISA server 2006 to replace our existing Cisco PIX 506.

      But I still not quite understand the whole purpose of SBS 2003, I never used it until one time I helped a friend to setup his company network and helped him setup his Dell server which had SBS 2003 pre-installed. It seems to be easier to use, and I like the GPO templates feature.

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      • #4
        Re: Migrate existing Win2k3 Std domain to SBS 2003 ?

        You can't use ISA 2006 with SBS 2003. The premium edition comes with ISA 2004 but it is not upgradeable to ISA 2006.
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        • #5
          Re: Migrate existing Win2k3 Std domain to SBS 2003 ?

          You could use ISA 2006 with SBS 2003 but not on the same box, and not integrated. Then again SBS2003 premium version has ISA 2004 completely integrated and is almost as good as ISA 2006.
          Have you also looked at SBS 2008? It seems a pity to be investing in 5-6 year old technologies when you are starting "afresh".
          I will take issue with you on the consultancy issue though - a good SBS consultant is worth a lot more than an extra day of downtime or a lost order of 10,000(insert your currency here)
          I will agree, however, that there are a lot of "less good" consultants that don't know what they are doing. For that there is the SBSC (Small Business Specialist) program where MS semi-endorses some of these consultants. Better still, find out if there is a user group in your area, where you can get personal recommendations, and also learn for yourself what SBS is all about.

          IT is a core part of many businesses these days, and yours sounds especially dependent on it. Don't try and cut corners to save, it will cost you more in the long run and especially in these difficult financial times.
          TIA

          Steven Teiger [SBS-MVP(2003-2009)]
          http://www.wintra.co.il/
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          • #6
            Re: Migrate existing Win2k3 Std domain to SBS 2003 ?

            thanks to all the suggestions... Yes our enviroment depends heavily on IT, I'll definitely look for a local SBS specialist and try to get some consultation on my situation.

            but what are the major differences between SBS 2003 and 2k3 standard / enterprise?

            reason I didn't ask SBS 2008 because our existing network is 2k3 based, the SQL server and web server are running on 2003 Enterprise. Will SBS 2008 be compatible?

            If I run a integrated ISA with SBS on the same box, isn't it a big risk to security? Since the SBS box will be also a DC / DNS / DHCP server.

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            • #7
              Re: Migrate existing Win2k3 Std domain to SBS 2003 ?

              Certain "compromises" were made to design ISA and the other components of SBS to fit on the same box (however, security was NOT of of the compromises). It usually meant that, unless you used the wizards to change configurations on the box, you usually ended up "breaking" something. It also meant that there was less flexibilty in using and building web sites with IIS on the box as, again, making IIS work for you, many times meant compromising the built-in web-sites secured in the initial SBS design. Hence, you were not recommended to run your Web site on SBS.
              SBS 2008 is a different animal, however and does not include ISA in either the standard OR premium package. It is compatible with a 2003 network, though. MS isn't stupid enough to make every organisation upgrade to 2008 in one go - that would be commercial suicide IMnotsoHO!
              SBS2008 premium includes an additional server license which can be either 2003 or 2008 (you choose - you get the media for both but the license for only one). The intention is to put your LOB application with SQL on the additional server (again media for SQL 2005 and SQL 2008 is included, but you choose which one you license). But again you could install Server 2003 then buy a license for ISA 2006 and install it there. BTW there has just been a white paper published on how to install ISA 2006 in an SBS 2008 environment on Technet - no link yet, I will add it if i remember where I saved it!!
              TIA

              Steven Teiger [SBS-MVP(2003-2009)]
              http://www.wintra.co.il/
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              • #8
                Re: Migrate existing Win2k3 Std domain to SBS 2003 ?

                Originally posted by mike2016 View Post
                thanks to all the suggestions... Yes our enviroment depends heavily on IT, I'll definitely look for a local SBS specialist and try to get some consultation on my situation.

                but what are the major differences between SBS 2003 and 2k3 standard / enterprise?

                reason I didn't ask SBS 2008 because our existing network is 2k3 based, the SQL server and web server are running on 2003 Enterprise. Will SBS 2008 be compatible?

                If I run a integrated ISA with SBS on the same box, isn't it a big risk to security? Since the SBS box will be also a DC / DNS / DHCP server.
                SBS is much more "inbuilt" - it has a lot of functions all built in to allow a single server for your organisation, ISA, sharepoint, sql, AD, probaby a few other things.
                SBS also wants you to do everything via wizards or things break,

                2k3 standard and enterprise edition also have their own differences...

                SBS2k8 _shouldnt_ cause problems running with existing 2k3 servers.. many many environments use 2k8 and 2k3 servers in one enironment..
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