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    Side question: Where is the introduction forum? I'd like to introduce myself but I couldn't find the forum.

    The real question: I tried searching for this, so I apologize if it's been asked a million times, but I couldn't find it. My company is going from a workgroup setup to implementing a small business server. I will be handling the entire migration. I got a couple of books on small business server 2003, and they both talk about partitioning the system. I know that when I get my dell box that it'll most likely be one large partition that it is installed on. So, is it typical practice to whipe out the default installation, make partitions, and reinstall? If so, I have a few questions:
    1) Do you use third party software to make the partitions like partition magic? Does SBS use NTFS? Are there other ways to make these partitions? is fdisk fine?
    2) What partition types are there? One for exchange, one for user data, etc?
    3) How do I know what size to make each partition? I will have a raid 5 array, five disks 160 Gigs each.

    If more information is needed, please ask. I appreciate any help on this and look forward to being a member of this community and learning.

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    Re: partitions and partition sizes

    To answer your first question go here.

    http://forums.petri.com/showthread.php?t=9809

    Now onto your second.

    1) Do you use third party software to make the partitions like partition magic? Does SBS use NTFS? Are there other ways to make these partitions? is fdisk fine?
    I don't use any partitioning software other than what Microsoft provides. Determine what your initial partition will be and work from there.

    2) What partition types are there? One for exchange, one for user data, etc?
    Not sure exactly what you mean with this one. There are basically two different types of partition, where windows is concerned. One is a Primary partition and the other is and extended partition. This is too deep a subject to go into here and i somehow don't think this is what you were meaning.

    I would definately have at least one partition for the OS and Apps, one for User data, One for the Exchange Databases and one for the Exchange Log files.

    Someone else will probably comment on this though.

    3) How do I know what size to make each partition? I will have a raid 5 array, five disks 160 Gigs each.
    TBH there is no set sizes for any partition to be. This unfortunately will be determined by what growth etc you will experience and what you are transferring over now, how many users you have, backup schedules, etc, etc.

    Are you setting these drives up in a raid format?? If yes then what are you setting up?? RAID 5 would probably be the best option. RAID 5 will give you redundancy but it costs you a disk. Your total useable disk space will then be 640GB.

    Again one of the SBS specialist will probably be the best person to have right now.

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    • #3
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      Yes, it's raid 5 with striping. It's a funny coinsidence that I just got a call from the receiving department and I got my box in today! In regards to the type of partitions, I have read some books say you should have these partitions:

      1) System Partition
      2) Data Partition
      3) Library Partition
      4) Swap partition
      5) System data partition to hold the exchange and sql databases

      I'm still really confused about what the size of my partitions should be. I have 5 disks that are 160GB each, 30 users, I am transferring maybe 20 Gigs of information off of a snap server we used as a shared drive before.

      Also, sbs 2003 r2 came preinstalled on my box on one partition(just plugged it in and verified this). What steps should I take to clean it off, partition it, and then reinstall it. What is generally used for the partitioning? Should I partition it now that it's set up and then do a clean install over the existing?
      Last edited by noRulez43; 28th September 2006, 18:42.

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      • #4
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        See my reply to another thread in this forum. If it is DELL pre-installed then you will find the great majority of systems consultants wipe it out and start again. I don't know if they got better on R2 installs yet as I haven't experienced them. In any case with R2 you may have about 6-8Gb of data downloaded by WSUS and you don't want to Shadow Copy (VSS) that, as it is readily recreatable and shouldn't change "versions" - so that should now be on its own partition, maximum with other "static" data like clientapps and drivers/downloads. Create at least 3 partitions, with 20GB for C: and similar for E: if you have WSUS. That leaves you about 120Gb for Data and Exchange - should be enough.
        Oh, and make sure you download the latest DELL ServerManager before you start.

        All IMO, of course!
        TIA

        Steven Teiger [SBS-MVP(2003-2009)]
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        • #5
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          weird...I stuck the sbs 2003 cd in and rebooted. I get to the beginning of the install and it says: Setup did not find any hard disk drives installed in your computer. Um...what? Also, at what point do I make the partitions? During installation?

          Oh, and it is Dell and they have not gotten better on R2 installs yet.
          Last edited by noRulez43; 28th September 2006, 22:47.

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          • #6
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            You'll need to put the SCSI card drivers on a floppy and press F6 during setup when it asks.

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            • #7
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              This is probably a very stupid question, but where can I pull the scsi drivers from? Are they on one of the sbs 2003 installation disks? I can't find any driver disks that came with the system.


              update: Well I found the drivers disk and got the sas drivers off of it only to notice that I didn't get a floppy drive with the server! Is there any other way to do it? I only have one cd rom drive.

              Would an external usb floppy drive work for this? I could go pick one up real quick but I don't know if an external floppy drive would be recognized.
              Last edited by noRulez43; 29th September 2006, 15:13.

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              • #8
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                Forget those last questions. I've got the installation going with an external floppy drive.

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                • #9
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                  Not good
                  Find the DELL Installation CD - you can always download the latest one from their site at support.dell.com. You may need a bit of searching, but it will guide you through the setup.
                  http://support.dell.com/support/down...&fileid=178679
                  is one for the PowerEdge 1800 for example.
                  TIA

                  Steven Teiger [SBS-MVP(2003-2009)]
                  http://www.wintra.co.il/
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                  • #10
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                    Don't you just hate that you NEED a FDD to install the F6 option drivers. You would think Microsoft would have had an option where you could at least point to the CD drive.
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                    • #11
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                      That's why you use the manuf. CD - then you don't need the floppy.
                      TIA

                      Steven Teiger [SBS-MVP(2003-2009)]
                      http://www.wintra.co.il/
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                      • #12
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                        Doesn't help when the manufacturer gives you a 4GB partition.
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                        • #13
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                          Originally posted by biggles77
                          Doesn't help when the manufacturer gives you a 4GB partition.
                          I'm sure you do get the option to resize this though. Been a long time since i've used the Dell CD's though.

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                          • #14
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                            Not with the last Acer setup I didn't. Mind you it was 2 years ago.
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                            2 2 was 1 2.
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                            2 2 1 1 2

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                            • #15
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                              With the DELL/HP/IBM management CD's YOU setup the partitions and if DELL gave you 4GB, you blow it away and start again.
                              TIA

                              Steven Teiger [SBS-MVP(2003-2009)]
                              http://www.wintra.co.il/
                              sigpic
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                              We donít stop playing because we grow old, we grow old because we stop playing.

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