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    To me it's just a waste of time. What's the whole point in using the www subdomain?
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    Re: To www or not to www

    For me it's a matter of convenience and visibility. I like to point my domain A record and my www record to my web site ip address. That way regardless of whether the user types www or not they wind up at my web site, which is what I want.

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    It's also a matter of convention. As Ossian stated, users have come to expect the www.
    Last edited by joeqwerty; 21st May 2010, 13:23.

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      Re: To www or not to www

      Certainly most users expect to www (how DO you pronounce that, btw) so probably best to have it
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        Re: To www or not to www

        Originally posted by Ossian View Post
        Certainly most users expect to www (how DO you pronounce that, btw) so probably best to have it
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        Ditto what Joe said. It is a simple A Record and I think it also looks professional when the site comes up in the browser as:

        http://www.lotsofporn.com instead of

        http://lotsofporn.com

        Without the www, it reminds me of a TinyURL <insert pet hate icon>; unprofessional just like the companies who have a Gmail or Hotmail email account.
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          Re: To www or not to www

          www = wwwowsers!
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          • #6
            Re: To www or not to www

            WWW refers to the root of your domain. You may then define subdomains like sales.mydomain.com as an example. I feel that it is good sense to put in an A record for www.mydomain.com and mydomain.com as I personally never type www for an address unless absolutely necessary. Why type more than is needed?
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              Re: To www or not to www

              I disagree that 'www.domain.com' refers to the root of your domain. Sure, it's a commonly recognised.... "standard" that internet users in particular expect, but it's definitely not absolutely necessary.

              The root of your domain should be "domain.com" "

              but, as already poitned out by others, it's a set and forget thing - create an A record, ensure the host responds to both. easy.
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                Re: To www or not to www

                JDM, please do not post about what you do not understand
                sales.mydomain.com cannot be a subdomain of www.mydomain.com (that would be sales.www.mydomain.com)
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                  Re: To www or not to www

                  Originally posted by Ossian View Post
                  JDM, please do not post about what you do not understand
                  sales.mydomain.com cannot be a subdomain of www.mydomain.com (that would be sales.www.mydomain.com)
                  maybe you should not misquote people and try to make them look bad when it is not required. I mentioned that WWW is normally the root of the domain, where the domain would be mydomain.com. Thus, sales.mydomain.com IS the subdomain of mydomain.com. As has been stated by other members here, www.mydomain.com is normally also set to goto the root of the domain, mydomain.com, thus my comment stands true that WWW is normally referred to as the root of the domain. I challenge you to find a 3rd party domain where WWW does not refer to the root of a domain.
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                    Re: To www or not to www

                    I challenge you to find a 3rd party domain where WWW does not refer to the root of a domain.
                    You mean something like this? http://forums.jdmils.com/ or even http://jdmils.com/

                    Every domain I administer can be set to do this just by removing the "root domain" A Record, www.
                    Last edited by biggles77; 18th June 2010, 15:27. Reason: Added info
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                    • #11
                      Re: To www or not to www

                      http://www.thesitewizard.com/apache/...ubdomain.shtml

                      "how to redirect from your root domain to the www subdomain and vice versa"


                      http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&c...A&ved=0CBIQkAE

                      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNS_root_zone


                      I could keep going. But WWW.domain.com could NOT be a root domain. Why? Because you cannot register "www.domain" with a register. You would need to register www as either a specific subdomain, or a specifc host record (either A, or C name dependent.)

                      Thus, it's not the "root of your domain"



                      Technically, even in that scenario, the root domain is .com but that's being a little pedantic.


                      It's quite simple. With a configured webserver, you can serve pages on domain.com
                      If you CHOOSE to register another ANAME, say, www, and configure the webserve,r it can also serve on these pages. But it;'s not the ROOT. It's simply a commonly recognised hostname (or subdomain, if you created the subdomain, but that's probably going over your head a little I think)
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                        Re: To www or not to www

                        Root = base = lowest part = name.com, not www.name.com
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                          Re: To www or not to www

                          Originally posted by biggles77 View Post
                          Originally posted by biggles77 View Post
                          The standard of their content is very disappointing.

                          As for the WWW issue, it's always been 'traditional', and a lot of non-technical people will insist on putting it in front of whatever address they're told to enter.

                          www.[maps / earth / mail / images].google.com - otherwise it just won't load. It only loads for us 'IT types' because we've taught our computers to invisibly tack 'www.' on the front of every address we type.

                          Anyone else feel their blood pressure rise slightly when they have to train the lusers?
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                            Re: To www or not to www

                            Originally posted by biggles77 View Post
                            You mean something like this? http://forums.jdmils.com/ or even http://jdmils.com/

                            Every domain I administer can be set to do this just by removing the "root domain" A Record, www.
                            Ahem....http://forums.jdmils.com is a sub-domain which does NOT point to the root of the domain, being http://jdmils.com. My challenge asked for examples of WWW not pointing to the root of the domain- so why are you quoting a web address with no WWW in it!? Read the question before posting!

                            As for the posters who have gone troppo saying that WWW is not the root domain, oh DER! My point is, if you only stopped madly typing before processing in your brain, you would see that WWW always points to the root of any domain.

                            When you register a domain name, you are registering www.domainname.com although technically the www is a subdomain, it points to the root of the domain name. Have a look at http://www.domainregistration.com.au/. Look at the place where you enter the required domain name. Notice the WWW. This is what I am referring to- WWW always points to the root of the domain name!
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                              Re: To www or not to www

                              Originally posted by JDMils View Post
                              This is what I am referring to- WWW always points to the root of the domain name!
                              By tradition, not by requirement. It's entirely up to the website administrator whether or not the www subdomain points to the root or somewhere else. That's pretty much the point that people are making.
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