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    I trust I post it in the correct forum. I'll be as short as possible. I have three offices in three countries in Europe. We offer a variety of services. We are international consultants (tax experts, lawyers and auditors, fiduciary and trust management services). We are with few staff (fifteen right now, but growing fast). Expansion is planned to two other continents soon. Long term total staff will not exceed 150 consultants and staffmembers. So, you'll understand the setup must be scalable.

    We want to setup a completely new corporate wide network. We want to maximise the use of modern hardware and software, which we consider a major competitive advantage. We found that all benefits are included in below server software. So, this is what we plan to implement:

    1. MS Windows Server 2008 - Enterprise (still in beta, I know) - 64 bit
    2. MS Exchange Server 2007 - Enterprise 64 bit
    3.1 MS virtualization solution planned in (1) - 64 bit OR
    3.2 Citrix XenServer™ Enterprise Edition - 64 bit
    4. MS Unified Communications (VoIP, IM, Video Conferencing) - 64 bit
    5. MS SharePoint Server - 64 bit
    6. Citrix Presentation Server 64 bit (used to be called Citrix Metaframe, I believe)
    7. SafeWord (for Citrix). Don't know if this also can be used on SmartPhones. I need to check this out, if this can be used under MS Windows Mobile v6 (Like RSA SecureID)

    We don't consider to use BlackBerry (Push technology) put we want SmartPhones based on MS Windows Mobile v6 to synchronize with the Exchange Server at times the user wants (pull, rather than push).

    The sites will be connected with IPsec based VPN gateways. Notebooks will use IPsec based VPN Client software. Else, our consultants will use SSL based VPN gateways to access applications (Applications Server)

    The questions are not software related only. I also need advise on the HP ProLiant DL380 G5 series rack servers and on HP blade servers.

    The major Hardware decision I have to take is this:
    1. go with a DL380G5 server together with Virtualization Software (like in (3) above)

    OR
    2. a HP blade server.

    I am very keen on using (1) with Virtualization. What are the cons and pros for choosing for a Quadcore ProLiant DL380G5 with MS Server 2008 Enterprise edition and virtualization (Microsofts embedded virtualization or Citrix Xen) as opposed to go for using a Blade server.

    I am asking, because two different HP certified retailers / MS certified server specialist advise me here different solutions.

    For now I'd like to address the hardware issue. I'll address the questions I have on the Server Software side in the specifice forums. I will refer to this posting to avoid that I will have to repeat the context of why I am requesting information on specific issues. I trust the forum administrator will agree to this.

    I look forward to hearing from you on the hardware issue I raised.
    regards, switch
    Last edited by switch; 11th November 2007, 17:20.

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    Re: Complete New server and serversoftware setup

    Not meaning to sound funny but i think you really need to think over you strategic planning for your network infrustructure and try and plan over a 3 year period. Technology changes to quick there is no point to implement all that hardware and software at this point i feel.

    Plus a lot of the software is probably not going to be necessary.

    E.G.

    If you intend to use MS Exchange, Sharepoint, and LCS, is there really any need to use Citrix.

    For what you have quoted to do i would possibly think this would cost 150k +

    Is that necessary?

    Create a plan of what the organisation needs it terms of services and the structure and plan how you intend to deliver them.

    Rather than implementing every possible service under the sun.

    Hope this doesnt sound like im putting you down, I just dont want you to fall into the same mistakes that i have done in the pass.

    The key thing to a robust, secure, reliable and scalable solution is strategic planning over a limited period. (3 Years)

    Cheers




    One thing i might add is to forget citrix and vpn's and publish everything web based.

    I would personally go down the route of Sharepoint, CRM, Project, Email.

    Does a company need anything else???

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      Re: Complete New server and serversoftware setup

      steculshaw, thanks for your feedback. Don't worry, I take you serious. I appreciate your insight on recommending not to exceed a planning time horizon of 3 years. I had in mind 3-5 years. I realize technology is changing fast, particularly the HW side. Still, it is unclear to me which type of hardware server I should implement.

      As with regard to Citrix: I have accounting applications which should be accessible from anywhere in a very secure way.

      I met with some IT professionals today, who may be interested in helping me out as part of a Technology Early Adoption program, as envisaged by me. Let's see. I hope this is going to work out.


      Originally posted by steculshaw View Post
      Not meaning to sound funny but i think you really need to think over you strategic planning for your network infrustructure and try and plan over a 3 year period. Technology changes to quick there is no point to implement all that hardware and software at this point i feel.

      Plus a lot of the software is probably not going to be necessary.

      E.G.

      If you intend to use MS Exchange, Sharepoint, and LCS, is there really any need to use Citrix.

      For what you have quoted to do i would possibly think this would cost 150k +

      Is that necessary?

      Create a plan of what the organisation needs it terms of services and the structure and plan how you intend to deliver them.

      Rather than implementing every possible service under the sun.

      Hope this doesnt sound like im putting you down, I just dont want you to fall into the same mistakes that i have done in the pass.

      The key thing to a robust, secure, reliable and scalable solution is strategic planning over a limited period. (3 Years)

      Cheers




      One thing i might add is to forget citrix and vpn's and publish everything web based.

      I would personally go down the route of Sharepoint, CRM, Project, Email.

      Does a company need anything else???

      Comment

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