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    Hi,

    we want to upgrade the LAN/WAN infrastructure of our campus. Afterwards our old PBX will be replaced, too.

    Some infos about us: ~43 buildings, ~15000 students.

    The buildings are located within the whole city. They are connected with the helo of the local WAN of the city. For now our backbone for the some big locations is already 1Gbit/s, for the small ones we have 100 MBit/s.

    The backbone will have 1Gbit/s, but we will probably have a ring between the 6 major locations and use load balancing.

    We prefer stackable switches connected with 10GBit/s CX4 cables.

    IPv6 routing protocolls would be nice, multiple 802.1x user per port for voip and data VLAN

    Management, monitoring software is also needed.

    ~230 new WLAN access points with central WLAN controllers.

    Well, what manufacturer would you recommend? Which product line (we want to have as few different models as possible) do you suggest?


    I already have looked at some manufacturers product pages. So far, the following switches look nice:

    Alcatel 6850, HP 3500yl/6200yl, 3COM 4800G


    It would be great, of you could give some hints or nogoes...

    thanks in advance

    Peter
    Last edited by excelsio; 28th June 2009, 11:38. Reason: some mistakes

  • #2
    Re: New network for campus - which manufacturer?

    3Com is a good company but we have some bottleneck with some switchs

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    • #3
      Re: New network for campus - which

      Cisco for your wireless since they have 11n devices. http://www.cisco.com/en/US/netsol/ns...s_package.html

      Maybe you should look at 10gigabit for your backbone since 1gb is fairly "standard" now. 1gb in 5 years will be sort of like 10meg is now.
      1 1 was a racehorse.
      2 2 was 1 2.
      1 1 1 1 race 1 day,
      2 2 1 1 2

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      • #4
        Re: New network for campus - which

        Amazing what people will do to save the price of a consultant!

        This is probably a $million project that will decide how the campus operates for the next few years and it will be based on our experiences without the full picture of the requirements and issues to be faced.

        Note this does not take away from what members here can offer, but if things go wrong, where will there be any comeback?
        Tom Jones
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        PhD, MSc, FIAP, MIITT
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        Ossian Ltd
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        • #5
          Re: New network for campus - which

          hey

          Go for dlink products - here you can do stacking thru ring, have wireless controllers (dws3024) and supports - IPv6 routing protocols, multiple 802.1x user per port for voip and data VLAN, supports SNMP..

          If you look into some of the netgear products you too have it in individual products..
          Just have a look at the products of dlink and netgear. this should fit your requirement.
          any queries.. keep posted!!


          cheers
          L8ian

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          • #6
            Re: New network for campus - which

            Dlink????????????????????????????? :eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek:

            On a project this size I would look at high end gear only. All my experience with dlink is I would consider them as a mid to low end domestic product. Netgear would be a mid level product depend on the gear. Not I haven't mentioned Linksys which I rate above both previous products but we are talking about a serious sized project here.

            Excelsio, I don't know what you experience level is but your request was for hardware suggestions. As per my above words, I would guess you will get a lot of x is better than y because I use x. Just like Porche is better than Ferrari, Boeing is better than Airbus, Chrysler is better than Ford.

            Have a look at the hardware mentioned especially model numbers like L8ians supplied but I would seriously, very seriously consider bringing in a Consultant who does this sort of work for a living. For starters they will know (hopefully) the pitfalls of certain gear working/not working with each other and if it does go wrong you can at least point the finger at someone else.

            This really is a large project and along Ossians line not one that can be professionally catered for in even a Forum as good as this one.

            By all means ask questions, the more the better, but please do not use the answers to roll out the project.
            1 1 was a racehorse.
            2 2 was 1 2.
            1 1 1 1 race 1 day,
            2 2 1 1 2

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            • #7
              Re: New network for campus - which

              My recommendation would be to enlist the vendors you're interested in to assist in the analysis and design. My guess is that Cisco, HP, 3COM, etc. would be more than happy to advise you based on the fact that this is a very large installation and likely represents a lot of revenue to the vendor you choose.

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              • #8
                Re: New network for campus - which

                Damn, good thinking Joe. I'm envious that I didn't come up with that one.
                1 1 was a racehorse.
                2 2 was 1 2.
                1 1 1 1 race 1 day,
                2 2 1 1 2

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                • #9
                  Re: New network for campus - which

                  Thx. I'm sure you were on to it, I'm just a little faster to the keyboard.

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                  • #10
                    Re: New network for campus - which

                    Originally posted by joeqwerty View Post
                    Thx. I'm sure you were on to it, I'm just a little faster to the keyboard.
                    Nope, didn't even consider it.
                    1 1 was a racehorse.
                    2 2 was 1 2.
                    1 1 1 1 race 1 day,
                    2 2 1 1 2

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                    • #11
                      Re: New network for campus - which

                      Originally posted by joeqwerty View Post
                      My recommendation would be to enlist the vendors you're interested in to assist in the analysis and design. My guess is that Cisco, HP, 3COM, etc. would be more than happy to advise you based on the fact that this is a very large installation and likely represents a lot of revenue to the vendor you choose.
                      Exactly, the vendor will put you in touch with a local partner who will work up the design and bill of materials for you and get you a price quote. Most likely the vendor will also provide an account manager and system engineer to work with you on meeting your requirements.
                      Cisco CCNA, CCDA, CCVP, Advanced Wireless Design Specialist, CCIP (in progress)

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