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  • Workgroup: Vista + XP + 2 routers

    This is the most weird thing I ever saw, and to be honest, i'm really blocked with it.
    this is the scenario:

    10 computers: 4 Vista (wireless) + 6 XP sp2 192.168.1.5->15
    1 Wireless HP Printer: 192.168.1.253
    1 router + Wireless Hotspot (Linksys GRT54L) : 192.168.1.1
    1 router + modem ADSL (Thomsom) : 192.168.1.254 (default gateway)


    All devices connected, the thomsom router has a very nit tool that shows me all the devices connected (both ip and mac address).

    I can connect the vista's computers to the network and route outside to the internet. (whatever using wireless or cable).

    I can't connect the XP's computers to the network and route ouside to the internet, using cable.

    I can connect the XP's route the XP's ouside to the internet with wireless.

    I can ping the vistas among then selfs and the routers.

    I can't ping the xp's from the vistas or among then selfs.

    I can't ping the routers from the XP's.


    Now how can this be possible?

    Thanks in advance

  • #2
    Re: Workgroup: Vista + XP + 2 routers

    can you draw this out in a diagram.

    One thing; some wireless routers have a feature that does not allow computers connected to the same AP (using wireless) to see each other. I cannot recall the name of this feature but someone here might.
    "...if I turn out to be particularly clear, you've probably misunderstood what I've said” - Alan Greenspan

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    • #3
      Re: Workgroup: Vista + XP + 2 routers

      Not sure what you mean.

      Vista's devices can see each other (including the network devices.) They can ping then self, ping the network devices, route to the internet. All is ok among then.

      XP's computers can't. I know i don't have anything with the wrong configuration. I'm trying to find some needle, what could i have wrong... but it's so absurd: If i connect any of the XP computer directly to any of the router, i have network access. If i hook it in the wall i can't. If i hook one of the vista's in the same place, i have no problem!!!


      This is the most strange thing i ever saw!

      Network diagram:

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      • #4
        Re: Workgroup: Vista + XP + 2 routers

        OK, never mind what I wrote before, know I understand how you are hooked up.
        The XP machines are wired right?
        How do you have the routers chained, LAN to WAN port, or LAN to LAN port?

        I got to admit based on the info so far it is weird.
        "...if I turn out to be particularly clear, you've probably misunderstood what I've said” - Alan Greenspan

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        • #5
          Re: Workgroup: Vista + XP + 2 routers

          LAN to LAN, so they are in the same subnet. I did considerer chain LAN - WAN and place then in 2 subnets, but with 10 computers is ....


          I'm really puzzled with this. It doesn't make much sense.

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          • #6
            Re: Workgroup: Vista + XP + 2 routers

            does it hit the gateway when you run a traceroute?
            Marcel
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            • #7
              Re: Workgroup: Vista + XP + 2 routers

              tracert to the gateway:

              Vista's and wireless (Xp's or Vista), it does.
              Xp's don't.

              But in the network tools of the gateway i have their ip and mac addy detected (all of then, Vista's, XP's and the remaining devices on the network).

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              • #8
                Re: Workgroup: Vista + XP + 2 routers

                so you can't ping the gateway from a XP client?
                Marcel
                Technical Consultant
                Netherlands
                http://www.phetios.com
                http://blog.nessus.nl

                MCITP(EA, SA), MCSA/E 2003:Security, CCNA, SNAF, DCUCI, CCSA/E/E+ (R60), VCP4/5, NCDA, NCIE - SAN, NCIE - BR, EMCPE
                "No matter how secure, there is always the human factor."

                "Enjoy life today, tomorrow may never come."
                "If you're going through hell, keep going. ~Winston Churchill"

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                • #9
                  Re: Workgroup: Vista + XP + 2 routers

                  No sir, i can't, not on wired lan. But i can ping on wireless lan. And i can ping if i connect then directly in the router. And i can also ping using vista's computers on the same network node (where i can' ping with XP's).

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                  • #10
                    Re: Workgroup: Vista + XP + 2 routers

                    If you can't ping the gateway then there is quite important issue.
                    Can you post an ipconfig /all?
                    Marcel
                    Technical Consultant
                    Netherlands
                    http://www.phetios.com
                    http://blog.nessus.nl

                    MCITP(EA, SA), MCSA/E 2003:Security, CCNA, SNAF, DCUCI, CCSA/E/E+ (R60), VCP4/5, NCDA, NCIE - SAN, NCIE - BR, EMCPE
                    "No matter how secure, there is always the human factor."

                    "Enjoy life today, tomorrow may never come."
                    "If you're going through hell, keep going. ~Winston Churchill"

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                    • #11
                      Re: Workgroup: Vista + XP + 2 routers

                      Ok, solved. As i suspected there were cable issues:

                      1.pair 3 e 4 were switched btw the wall plugin and the router end's of the cable. Only 1 cord of the cable (Next time i wont hire a colorblind electrician ) :
                      1 - 1
                      2 - 3
                      3 - 2

                      4 - 4
                      5 - 5
                      6 - 6
                      7 - 7
                      8 - 8

                      2.The cable btw the gateway and the router was properly assembled. Thats why all the wireless could work just fine.


                      One thing still puzzles me: The vista's computers already have 1000/100/10 network cards. Only this ones could work with the wired network. So they could use the cable with the switched cords . I thought only 2,3,5 and 6 where used to data

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                      • #12
                        Re: Workgroup: Vista + XP + 2 routers

                        glad you're solved it.
                        Its recommended to use all the wires for maximum speed and reliability
                        Marcel
                        Technical Consultant
                        Netherlands
                        http://www.phetios.com
                        http://blog.nessus.nl

                        MCITP(EA, SA), MCSA/E 2003:Security, CCNA, SNAF, DCUCI, CCSA/E/E+ (R60), VCP4/5, NCDA, NCIE - SAN, NCIE - BR, EMCPE
                        "No matter how secure, there is always the human factor."

                        "Enjoy life today, tomorrow may never come."
                        "If you're going through hell, keep going. ~Winston Churchill"

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                        • #13
                          Re: Workgroup: Vista + XP + 2 routers

                          indeed. Many thanks for all the help never the less

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