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    Hello
    I'm using my proliant dl380 g5 as a terminal server,win2003 installed.Most of the time,i have 20 users conected and most of the applications are,internet explorer,outlook03,sql,access.I have 4 giga ram memory in this machine and frequently my server freezes for one or two minutes and come back to work when some of the users log off or stop their applications.How could i improve my virtual memory management?It doesn't sounds reazoneable that a machine like that has this kind of problems?
    Thanks
    Natan

  • #2
    Re: terminal server -too low virtual memory

    Please don't think 4 GB is "all that".

    My machine is currently allocating 125 MB to Outlook. x 20 users = 2.5 GB. And that's just Outlook.

    You may very well be memory limited.
    Cheers,

    Rick

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    • #3
      Re: terminal server -too low virtual memory

      I think you are right,rvstar.But running win2003 standard i can afford "only" 4 giga, so, the only way is to increase page file size,isn't it?

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      • #4
        how to control time out log in to an specific user

        Hi

        I would like to control for each user for how long he can stay logged in .I mean, when someone is not using his machine for 5 minutes, he is automaticlly logged of.I want to control that process.It is possible?
        Thanks
        Natan

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        • #5
          Re: terminal server -too low virtual memory

          Most of this issues isnt related to the RAM. Try to uninstall the AV, update to the latest hotfix/driver/bios etc.


          Terminal Server FAQ:

          Group Policy:

          How to apply Group Policy objects to Terminal Services servers

          http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;260370

          Loopback Processing of Group Policy

          http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=231287

          Security Settings - Software Restrictions

          http://www.computerperformance.co.uk...strictions.htm

          Introduction to Group Policy in Windows Server 2003

          http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserv...w/gpintro.mspx

          Windows Server 2003 Security Guide

          http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

          Windows 2003 - Group Policy WMI Filters

          http://www.computerperformance.co.uk...MI_filters.htm

          Using Windows Terminal Services to Run a Single Application

          http://www.windowsecurity.com/articl...plication.html

          How to lock down a Windows Server 2003 or Windows 2000 Terminal Server session

          http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;278295

          Best Practices for Citrix Policy design for Presentation Server 3 or 4

          http://www.brianmadden.com/content/content.asp?ID=503


          Terminal Server Licensing:

          The Ultimate Guide to Windows 2003 Terminal Server Licensing

          http://www.brianmadden.com/content/content.asp?id=154

          FAQ: Terminal Server Licensing

          http://www.brianmadden.com/content/content.asp?ID=129

          Free TS Licenses For MSDN Users/Microsoft Partners

          http://msdn.microsoft.com/subscripti...minalservices/



          The Ultimate Guide to Terminal Server Printing - Design and Configuration

          http://www.brianmadden.com/content/content.asp?ID=62

          How Microsoft's Windows 2003 SP1 Fallback Printer Driver Works (which now supports color!)

          http://www.brianmadden.com/content/content.asp?ID=438

          How to print to a network printer from an MS-DOS-based program in Windows XP

          http://support.microsoft.com/default...n-us%3bQ314499



          How to Configure Windows Network Load Balancing for pure Terminal Server environments

          http://www.brianmadden.com/content/content.asp?id=278


          Session Directory and Load Balancing Using Terminal Server

          http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserv...directory.mspx


          Deploying Windows Server 2003 Terminal Server to Host User Desktops

          http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro.../adstrmsr.mspx


          Terminal Services Client Cannot Connect to NLB Cluster TCP/IP Address

          http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=280805

          How Network Load Balancing Technology Works

          http://technet2.microsoft.com/Window....mspx?mfr=true

          Network Load Balancing: Frequently Asked Questions for Windows 2000 and Windows Server 2003

          http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro...ng/nlbfaq.mspx


          Add on tools:


          User Profile Hive Cleanup Service

          http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

          RDP 6.0

          http://www.petri.com/download_rdp_client_60.htm

          SoftGrid for Terminal Services

          http://www.softricity.com/solutions/sbc.asp


          Tips:


          Printers That Use Ports That Do Not Begin With COM, LPT, or USB Are Not Redirected in a Remote Desktop or Terminal Services Session
          View products that this article applies to.

          http://support.microsoft.com/kb/302361/en-us

          Windows 2000 Terminal Services server logs events 1111, 1105, and 1106

          http://support.microsoft.com/?id=239088

          Troubleshooting Remote Desktop Licensing Error Messages

          http://technet2.microsoft.com/Window...97e2c1033.mspx

          How to Configure ActiveSync for PDA Synchronization

          http://support.citrix.com/article/CTX821115

          HOW TO: Use Group Policy to Permit Users to Redirect and Play Audio in a Remote Desktop Session to Terminal Services in Windows Server 2003

          http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=818465

          The sizes of the working sets of all the processes in a console session may be trimmed when you use Terminal Services to log on to or log off from a computer that is running Windows Server 2003

          http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=905865

          Two taskbars are displayed, or the Language bar is displayed two or more times on the taskbar, on a computer that is running Windows Server 2003 or Windows XP

          http://support.microsoft.com/kb/932039
          Best Regards,

          Yuval Sinay

          LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/yuval14, Blog: http://blogs.microsoft.co.il/blogs/yuval14

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          • #6
            Re: how to control time out log in to an specific user

            Originally posted by natanat View Post
            when someone is not using his machine for 5 minutes, he is automatically logged of.
            On the TS server, Start -> Settings -> Control Panel -> Administrative Tools -> Terminal Services Configuration. In the Connection window, right-click on RDP-Tcp and Properties. Go to the Sessions tab and set there whatever you want it to happen (screenshot attached).
            I would use Performance Logs to monitor the behavior of the server during a relevant period of time (24 hours during an ordinary work-day should be enough). I would monitor Processor time (from Processor), Pages/sec and Available MBytes (from Memory) and Active Sessions and Inactive Sessions (from Terminal Server Sessions). Maybe some disk-related parameters will be relevant too, but not all of them together. With this data, I believe the reason for the behavior you encounter will be more clear.
            Another thing: the pagefile's size cannot be enlarged forever. With a big pagefile (bigger than 1.5-2 times the physical RAM) you will move the bottleneck from the RAM to the disk controller. The server will be busy moving pages from and to disk, instead of being busy with user processes. You might get to the point that you'll have to add RAM (thus upgrade the OS too).
            Attached Files

            Sorin Solomon


            In order to succeed, your desire for success should be greater than your fear of failure.
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            • #7
              Re: how to control time out log in to an specific user

              Originally posted by sorinso View Post
              On the TS server, Start -> Settings -> Control Panel -> Administrative Tools -> Terminal Services Configuration. In the Connection window, right-click on RDP-Tcp and Properties. Go to the Sessions tab and set there whatever you want it to happen (screenshot attached).
              I would use Performance Logs to monitor the behavior of the server during a relevant period of time (24 hours during an ordinary work-day should be enough). I would monitor Processor time (from Processor), Pages/sec and Available MBytes (from Memory) and Active Sessions and Inactive Sessions (from Terminal Server Sessions). Maybe some disk-related parameters will be relevant too, but not all of them together. With this data, I believe the reason for the behavior you encounter will be more clear.
              Another thing: the pagefile's size cannot be enlarged forever. With a big pagefile (bigger than 1.5-2 times the physical RAM) you will move the bottleneck from the RAM to the disk controller. The server will be busy moving pages from and to disk, instead of being busy with user processes. You might get to the point that you'll have to add RAM (thus upgrade the OS too).
              Hi sorinso
              I really enjoyed your answer(both) and i really aprecciate your efforts to help me.
              Keep in touch,always.
              Natan

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              • #8
                Re: how to control time out log in to an specific user

                Originally posted by natanat View Post
                i really aprecciate your efforts to help me.
                Cool, dude.
                I hope it helped you.

                Sorin Solomon


                In order to succeed, your desire for success should be greater than your fear of failure.
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