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    Hi,

    So we have an website for changing their active directory password, I have also done a GPO to "remove the change password" option for the windows machines.

    We also have osx, and linux machines joined to the domain.

    we have tried to see if we can remove change password in osx, but not possible, unless maybe having the osx server which takes up more time to learn about it.

    Well, question, is there a way to ONLY allow the webpage to change password, and DENY change password from everything else.

    the webpage can change password or do a reset password, via a code sent to the users email, and it also notify the user that password is changed...

    So I dont want other systems can change password. - hopefully they get denied.

    thanks
    Pete

  • #2
    Re: website only password changer

    Try changing the default permissions inside Active Directory itself. If you can delegate perms to allow non-domain admins to change passswords, alter user accounts, etc., then you should be able to delegate perms to a specific service account or security group, and remove any other non-admin perms.

    WORD OF ADVICE--STRONGLY RECOMMENDED: Do NOT make unplanned changes as laid out below in a running/production/live environment!! Try it out in a test setup FIRST. And be sure to back up your DC's system state before making any changes in live, so you have something to roll back to if anything goes wrong. But TEST, TEST, TEST first!

    Right-click the highest-level OU in your AD structure for everyday users, click Properties, then the Security tab. If your web server uses a service account to run with, then give that account permissions to change passwords, but remove any non-administrator users/groups. Always leave the admin rights in place, in case of issues later on.
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    • #3
      Re: website only password changer

      I get what you're saying.

      If you create a group called say PasswordAdmins
      In that group, you place Actual administrators, and then a Serviceaccount that runs the Website.
      Then you remove permissions to change password from self-object (but do not deny - just remove)
      then you give permission to the Passwordadmins group to change passwords

      sneaky thinking, I like it !
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      • #4
        Re: website only password changer

        Yeah, I only just thought of it myself based on the OP's original question. If you can add perms for other than the requesting user to change a password, why can't you take them away? And since he's running a more-than-just-Windows client environment, the web-based solution covers all users.

        Glad you like it!
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        • #5
          Re: website only password changer

          Hey Guys,

          Thanks for your responses, the website is actually a open source, (google code: PWM) and using a domain account, with password changing permissions, etc (for all domain users).

          And I will test this soon hopefully,

          Although I did test one account and given "deny-change password" in security and that's worked
          Logged in OSX, then change password, and i get a message saying go to administrator.. then changed to allow again, password changed..

          So whats the difference between removing the "change password" permission and denying it?

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          • #6
            Re: website only password changer

            At it's simplest, it's less documentation to worry about should future changes be needed. If the default names are left in place in AD, and you simply change the perms from Allow to Deny, then it's a single click to put it back should anything go wrong, or require major re-work, down the road.

            If you remove the entries completely that could be set to Deny, you want to be sure and make note of that somewhere, so you can manually re-add them and reset the perms in future, if needed.

            Simpler to tick one box.
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            • #7
              Re: website only password changer

              Originally posted by plawlor View Post
              So whats the difference between removing the "change password" permission and denying it?
              A deny is explicit and overrides an allow.
              Not allowing something is an implicit deny.

              Difference:

              "Domain users" is Denied "ChangePassword Permission"
              "Domain Admin" is Allowed "ChangePassword Permission"
              Joe Admin is a member of both Domainusers and DomainAdmins
              Fred User is a member of Domain Users
              Joe Admin is unable to change password. (Explicit deny overrides Explicit allow)
              Fred User is unable to change password. (Explicit deny)


              "Domain users" does not have "ChangePassword permission"
              "Domain Admins" is granted "ChangePassword Permission'
              Group membership as above
              Joe Admin is able to change password (Explicit allow)
              Fred User is unable to change password (implicit deny)
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              • #8
                Re: website only password changer

                Ok, I understand now.

                Now, in the highest level OU, I right click, security, advanced, find "self" and look for the "change password" permission and untick "allow"

                One problem, I can't seem to the find that permission....

                But if I find the "SELF" account, and go in it, it has "apply to: all descendant objects" and change the "apply to: desendant user objects" then i can find change password, and no ticks on allow or deny.

                Bit confused.

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                • #9
                  Re: website only password changer

                  hmm.. yes.. I see.. I just tried to do the same thing

                  I'll have to see what else I can find..
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