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  • SBS2003 to 2008 r2 Exchange 2010 (BES)

    Hi
    Were doing a SBS2003 to 2008 r2 / Exchange 2010 migration, should be really straightforward as no SQL or SharePoint.

    The new server is on the domain and some internal mailboxes have been moved to Exchange 2010 and work with no issues. Mail delivery is still via SBS2003.

    The challenge I have is the SBS2003 server also has BES Express on it and the remainder of mailboxes for users who access remote mail via iPhone or Android.

    What is the best way to move BES (there are only 4 users with BB's)
    Can I move the mailboxes to the 2010 platform and not break the iPhone connectivity?

    What I would like to achieve is a seamless transition over a weekend of either the iPhone users or the BES users (who are the directors)

    I'm comfortable with the migration just the BES aspect looks like it could go t**ts up!

    Any help would be appreciated

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    Re: SBS2003 to 2008 r2 Exchange 2010

    I'm moving this thread to the Exchange 2010 forum for a better response, but I suggest you also look for some BES forums to get more specialised help
    (e.g. http://supportforums.blackberry.com/...businessforums)
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    • #3
      Re: SBS2003 to 2008 r2 Exchange 2010 (BES)

      Most Blackberry Phones will do Exchange scraping now (can be configured to use OWA to collect mail), meaning you can get rid of the BES Server should you wish.

      You will loose functionality;
      Ability to re-provision phones
      Ability to monitor phones, what the end user is doing etc.
      Ability to push software
      Lock phone remotely

      They are the big four I remember.
      There are some small differences between BES mail and Exchange Scraping, but how long more will the BB Phones be in use?

      My 2 cents for now.

      With regard to a BES Express migration, its not too big a deal.
      Remember that MS patches are not tested against BES Servers as I'm sure you've noticed, so expect the same state of frustration in migrating from 2003 to 2010.
      along with the repairs necessary.
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      • #4
        Re: SBS2003 to 2008 r2 Exchange 2010 (BES)

        With just 4 phones I think you'll end up reinstalling and reprovisioning all the devices, at least that's what always happened to me. IIRC BESx is no longer in development - you can still get it but there will no new versions.

        I think what wobble_wobble means is using BIS (Blackberry Internet Services) rather than BESx. Basically this means device management is in the hands of your phone provider and you connect them to the OWA address. It's piss poor IME, at least on O2 in the UK as of last year, as you get email support only and no calendar or contact access except via manual syncing with the desktop app.
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        • #5
          Re: SBS2003 to 2008 r2 Exchange 2010 (BES)

          Thanks for the reply's

          Defo reinstall and provision, unfortunately the calendar sync is vital so need to keep BES

          The contracts are up in April 2015 so happy days!

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          • #6
            Re: SBS2003 to 2008 r2 Exchange 2010 (BES)

            Originally posted by m3trackboy View Post
            Thanks for the reply's

            Defo reinstall and provision, unfortunately the calendar sync is vital so need to keep BES

            The contracts are up in April 2015 so happy days!
            My experience with BIS is limited to O2 and it's a limitation at their end. If you are with another carrier it may be a viable option for 6 months transition.

            I personally don't like BESx unless I can dedicate a server to it, it's very finicky about Java versions etc so I prefer where possible to effectively sandbox it.
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            • #7
              Re: SBS2003 to 2008 r2 Exchange 2010 (BES)

              You lose about 80% of the functionality with BIS.
              No Notes, Calendar, Free/Busy, Read/Unread state. I don't see the point of BIS at all.
              Migrate to a new BES Express installation or wait a few months until the cloud based BES for the legacy devices is available.

              The other option would be to upgrade to OS 10 device which support ActiveSync natively and are very nice.

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