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    I have this requirement to implement exchange 2010 within my organization. Its a small one with 40 plus users. Kindly guide me on this.

    1. Which server hardware should i purchase for exchange

    2. I am planning to go for standard edition as we are a small org. but i believe we might be hosting multiple databases for 10 plus domains Is it ok ?

    3. Is it enough only to purchase the exchange license or do i need to purchase CAL as well.

  • #2
    Re: Exchange 2010 New Implementation

    There are still a lot of unknowns but as some general points:

    For capacity planning and hardware recommendations, check the links in post 4 of http://social.technet.microsoft.com/...b-be1703706a63

    Also, for 40 users, consider SBS as a cheaper option

    Standard edition is limited to (IIRC) 5 databases but you do not need one database per domain.

    CALs are required in addition to server licenses. There are Standard and Enterprise CALs which allow use of different features -- Ent adds on to Standard. These are independent of the server license type
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    • #3
      Re: Exchange 2010 New Implementation

      I checked with a Friend and he suggested to go with a HP ProLiant DL380 G7 Server.

      I spoke with a couple of hardware vendors and they ask me to send the detail design of my requirement. I am a newbie and this is officially going to be the first server in my org. so I dont know what specs should i send across to them.

      I got some information, I am going with the standard edition and I believe in this scenario since I will be having only one Administration account for administration of exchange, I may not require CAL's.

      Currently I have the users mailbox hosted on yahoo servers which we are looking to migrate to our own in house exchange.


      Kindly Assist for the hardware suggestions.
      Last edited by mudassir; 1st May 2013, 10:13. Reason: addition of yahoo hosting

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      • #4
        Re: Exchange 2010 New Implementation

        You WILL need 40+ CALs to go with your "40+ users". The question is "standard only, or standard + enterprise?"

        Use the links I gave to do some capacity planning -- based on answers you give you will get recommendations for drive space and processor/RAM. You should also do some research into RAID requirements and separation of log files from databases. There is a LOT more than "you need a xxxx server"

        Do you have Active Directory already in place? If not, seriously consider implementing Small Business Server 2011 for ease of management. It will support up to 75 users (CALs required).

        Also consider your personal training requirements and maybe getting a consultant in to do the initial planning and setup for you.
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        • #5
          Re: Exchange 2010 New Implementation

          As u mentioned i too was looking to get a consultant and get everything done but that would be a negative impact on my Job, So I have to avoid that. For that reason I have to go ahead and do everything myself.

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          • #6
            Re: Exchange 2010 New Implementation

            So what skills and experience do you have to do this?
            (I am not making a personal attack on you, but setting up a new exchange organisation is a non-trivial task and relying on help and advice from internet users who do not know your circumstances will almost certainly lead to failure)

            Getting a consultant in should not have a "negative impact on your job" but making a complete disaster of implementing exchange certainly will

            Elaborating on a previous answer -- CALs are required for users accessing email on Exchange -- one CAL per user. The fact that you are the only administrator is not relevant to the CALs required.
            Tom Jones
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            • #7
              Re: Exchange 2010 New Implementation

              Till date I was into Exchange 2003 administration. I was never into implementations. I recently moved to a new company and this is my first task handed over.

              I have been going on thru Trainsignal Videos and CBT nuggets, even read some document releases from Microsoft, articles from Petri and msexchange.org .

              I thought I could get over this but when it came to hardware selection, I found myself in no mans land, completely confused. I thought getting up a good hardware from the store would work but it seems a rocket science thing for me now.

              Reg CALS, thanks for briefing me on it. So to be precise, the number of mailboxes i have, I should have that many CALS apart from the standard licensing.

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              • #8
                Re: Exchange 2010 New Implementation

                You will require:
                1) a license for each server (Standard or Enterprise depending only on the number of databases required)
                2) a CAL for each user (Standard or Standard+Enterprise depending on functionality - e.g. archiving - you want the user to have)

                I am never absolutely clear whether all users need the same level of CAL or if you can mix or match, so the usual warning of "get answers from Microsoft, in writing, and get a couple of salespeople to answer then choose the best answer for you"

                It sounds as if you are taking the right approach to training -- TrainSignal is excellent, and well worth the monthly fee. Can you also set up a demo/test environment to practice on?

                Hardware selection is complex and will depend on a number of things you havent told us -- start by looking into current mailbox sizes and number (and size) of emails per day/week/month. This will not only help you plan storage needs (allow for the next 3-4 years and increases in user/message numbers) but also, if you use the MS spreadsheet, give an indication of processor and RAM needs. Do a review of disk requirements (separate arrays for logs and databases, RAID levels.....) and also consider backup, which should be Exchange aware (BackupAssist is a good, reasonably priced, option but there are others). Backup frequency will have an impact on log file sizes, and you will need to consider backup media and storage requirements.

                You should also consider any legal requirements to archive messages and plan a journalling strategy to make sure you keep things for the correct length of time regardless of whether users delete them from their mailboxes.
                Tom Jones
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                • #9
                  Re: Exchange 2010 New Implementation

                  If you were a mechanic, would you build your own car?

                  As a consultant myself, I strongly suggest you reconsider your decision not to bring in a consultant. The skills for a successful implementation are very different for the day to day management.

                  If you have only worked on Exchange 2003 then you have a very very steep learning curve. They are almost as different as Exchange is to Lotus Notes. A consultant will be very useful and shouldn't have any impact on your job. You haven't said how large the implementation is but I can turn round a complete installation in less than two days (minus data migration).

                  You will be learning skills for the implementation that you will immediately throw away once the server has been installed. It would be a lot more cost effective (financial and time) to learn how to look after Exchange and get a specialist to set it up for you.

                  Then you have the joys of removing the old server, which can take anything from 40 minutes to four or five hours. Again an experienced consultant will be used to dealing with it.

                  Screw it up and it can cost the company a lot of money, not only in downtime, but also in getting a consultant to fix it. I tell clients that the sooner you bring me in, the cheaper it is. Trying to fix a system that has gone live is very expensive because I have to work around users.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Exchange 2010 New Implementation

                    thanks for the guidelines and showing me a good track Ossain and Sembee.

                    My current setup is rather a small one for 40 plus users and the users pst files i.e. Pop3 from yahoo never exceed 1 GB. The total backup for all of them is under 50 GB. We are undergoing mass hiring and we may have our strength multiplied to double or triple of what we are now. so the max database size may not exceed 300 gb as we will be restricting them for size limits.

                    I agree that the learning part for implementation will be gone the moment it gets setup and then it will completely into the administration and implementation phase.

                    For testing purpose, I installed the Exchange on my Laptop and configured a personal domain that i had registered with go daddy few months back. Its working good. Working perfectly well internally. Requested my ISP for a public ip. will get it in a day or two and then i will put it live and test it. for now i can send mail externally but its treated as spam, i believe its coz of the ip issues.

                    reg cals. I created three users and it is showing me that i need 4 cals at the first screen itself. i believe its 3 for my user accounts and 1 for administrator account.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Exchange 2010 New Implementation

                      Originally posted by mudassir View Post
                      ... but that would be a negative impact on my Job, So I have to avoid that. For that reason I have to go ahead and do everything myself.
                      What he means is "I've been hired as an IT Systems Consultant" and I don't have a clue!
                      Regards,

                      Lee

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                      • #12
                        Re: Exchange 2010 New Implementation

                        Buy two servers - one a DC and one an Exchange server. Don't skimp on cheap / nasty clone hardware. By something like HP kit with extended warranty for the hardware for piece of mind.

                        Or buy one very high-spec server and VM / HyperVisor both servers.
                        Regards,

                        Lee

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                        • #13
                          Re: Exchange 2010 New Implementation

                          Despite being asked, we don't know if the OP has any sort of AD infrastructure in place already.
                          Tom Jones
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                          • #14
                            Re: Exchange 2010 New Implementation

                            Originally posted by LSainsbury View Post
                            What he means is "I've been hired as an IT Systems Consultant" and I don't have a clue!
                            Yes Mr. Lee. If I had the clues then i wouldn't have been here asking for the start up things. Rather I would be discussing abt the expert level issues with the MVP's.

                            I have been following petri.co.il for most of the time when i was into exchange 2003 administration, I thought its best to consult the experts before taking any wrong decisions.

                            The AD was already setup on a server with the following specs which also works as an web server and an ftp server.

                            Architecture - 64 Bit
                            Chipset - Intel Sandy Bridge Platform / Intel Xeon E3-1230 v2 @ 3.30 Ghz
                            Cpu - 4 Core and 8 logical processors
                            Ram - 16 gb

                            For Exchange, We are yet to decide on the hardware, as we are to receive 2 idle servers from a sister company. I will check the server specs and then forward the info across.

                            If those servers dont meet the specs then the management is looking at HP GL 380 G7
                            Last edited by mudassir; 4th May 2013, 11:33. Reason: added server details

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                            • #15
                              Re: Exchange 2010 New Implementation

                              It would be more useful to know the Domain and Forest FLs, as well as a little bit more about AD -- how many domains and sites for a start, as well as the number and placement of DCs. Also is there an existing Exchange organisation or is it completely Exchange free?
                              (Note too that Microsoft best practice says you should not use a DC as a public facing web/FTP server)

                              Have you actually done the Exchange capacity planning -- you have been given the links to use. Saying your "40, possibly doubled or tripled" users will not be allowed to exceed 300Gb storage is really not helping -- storage should be driven by business requirements including archiving and retention. For example, you may have sales people regularly sending large attachments that must be kept for a specified time for legal reasons. 300Gb can disappear very fast!

                              If you are determined to do everything yourself -- and you have been given some very good reasons to get help -- I would recommend you start by looking at all the suggestions made in this thread and considering them -- you do not need to post your thoughts here, but there is a lot more to consider than "this is the server hardware I have available"
                              Tom Jones
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