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  • Wish to retire Exch2003, but can't find all the "strings attached."

    Installed Exch10 and move all mailboxes to new Exch10 sys. I've attempted to move Public Folders to new system, but can't tell if the move was effective; I'm unsure how much my company actually uses Public Folders. When we stop the Exchange services on Exch03, users get Outlook logon pop-ups. I know that the exch03-exch10/exch10-exch03 connectors are still on both systems, and I'm unsure regarding procedure to remove and replace. Obviously, it will take e-mail down, temporarily, when I remove the connector(s) and replace them with a new one that handles all outbound and inbound requests. Any thoughts, suggestions, and/or pointers are greatly appreciated.
    Best regards,
    Jim Graue, MCP (WXP, WS03)

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    Re: Wish to retire Exch2003, but can't find all the "strings attached."

    Have you looked at pages like this?
    http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l...chg.80%29.aspx

    Googling "removing the last exchange 2003 server" (or similar) gives lots of hits so would be a good start.
    Have you setup your new PF as a replica of all of your content?
    cheers
    Andy

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    • #3
      Re: Wish to retire Exch2003, but can't find all the "strings attached."

      If you are using Exchange 2003, then you are using public folders. You cannot avoid migrating them across.
      After doing the move replicas change, the way to track it is to look in instances. Once that is empty you can think about moving on to the next stage.

      The process is very well documented.

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      • #4
        Re: Wish to retire Exch2003, but can't find all the "strings attached."

        Originally posted by Sembee View Post
        ...the way to track it is to look in instances. Once that is empty you can think about moving on to the next stage.

        The process is very well documented.

        Simon.
        I'm trying to "track it" by trying to "look in instances." However, I'm not able to find where to look. Any helpful hints are welcome.
        Best regards,
        Jim Graue, MCP (WXP, WS03)

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        • #5
          Re: Wish to retire Exch2003, but can't find all the "strings attached."

          Originally posted by AndyJG247 View Post
          Have you looked at pages like this?
          http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l...chg.80%29.aspx

          Googling "removing the last exchange 2003 server" (or similar) gives lots of hits so would be a good start.
          Have you setup your new PF as a replica of all of your content?
          Yes, I've stared at that page for a bit, and a few others.
          The new Public Folders is set up on the new Exch10 server, but I can't tell whether replication is transpiring properly.
          Best regards,
          Jim Graue, MCP (WXP, WS03)

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          • #6
            Re: Wish to retire Exch2003, but can't find all the "strings attached."

            In the Toolbox, using the Routing Log Viewer, I see that the First Hop RGC [what does "RGC" mean? I think the RG might refer to Routing Group, but I'm just guessing; maybe RGC = Routing Group Connector] shows the Exch10-Exch03 connector, and under Servers, the old mail server is directly referenced: exch03.mydomain.com. But, old exch03 server is also a DC (that will change in the future; I inherited Exchange 2003 on a DC). So, I don't know if it's trying to find the DC or GC, or whether this is a routing group issue, or what.
            Last edited by jgraue; 28th January 2013, 18:45.
            Best regards,
            Jim Graue, MCP (WXP, WS03)

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            • #7
              Re: Wish to retire Exch2003, but can't find all the "strings attached."

              Originally posted by Sembee View Post
              ...the way to track it is to look in instances...
              I found "Public Folder Instances" in ESM of Exch03. There is one listed instance, so I right-clicked on "Public Folder Store" and chose "Move All Replicas." So far, it's still listed, but research shows that it might persist for a bit. Several days ago, I'd used a PS command on EMS of Exch10 to move the replicas, but I guess it didn't complete. I'm surprised I didn't get a warning of some ilk. Our organization is not so large that this should take too long, even if I don't know exactly how long it ought to take.
              Last edited by jgraue; 28th January 2013, 21:56.
              Best regards,
              Jim Graue, MCP (WXP, WS03)

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              • #8
                Re: Wish to retire Exch2003, but can't find all the "strings attached."

                I've allowed a 24-hour period to pass, but the Public Folder Instance that I attempted to move, yesterday, has not cleared the ESM's "Public Folder Instances" folder. As I cannot move forward until I clear this folder, any suggestions as to a next step would be greatly appreciated.
                Best regards,
                Jim Graue, MCP (WXP, WS03)

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                • #9
                  Re: Wish to retire Exch2003, but can't find all the "strings attached."

                  In EMS, what should [PS] C:\Windows\system32\Get-publicFolder |ft yield? I get IPM_SUBTREE. Should there be more?
                  Best regards,
                  Jim Graue, MCP (WXP, WS03)

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                  • #10
                    Re: Wish to retire Exch2003, but can't find all the "strings attached."

                    I'll wait another day. If the Public Folder Instances view is not clear by then, I'll use adsiedit like so:
                    http://social.technet.microsoft.com/...7-df67e014eb68

                    After that, I'll continue through the steps to decommission, like so:
                    http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l...EXCHG.80).aspx
                    and so:
                    http://www.msexchange.org/articles-t...007-part1.html
                    Best regards,
                    Jim Graue, MCP (WXP, WS03)

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                    • #11
                      Re: Wish to retire Exch2003, but can't find all the "strings attached."

                      get-publicfolders will never show everything.
                      If you want a list then get-publicfolderstatistics will show you everything.

                      What folder is left behind? Is it a system folder or one of your own? If one of your own, add the Exchange 2003 server back as a replica, recreate the folder and move the content and then delete the original.

                      Simon.
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                      • #12
                        Re: Wish to retire Exch2003, but can't find all the "strings attached."

                        The Public Folders Instance left behind was one of our own. I would have tried your solution had I gotten it before I had already removed the Public Folders database using ADSIEdit. I'm trying to find the Routing Group Connectors on Exchange 2010 so that I may remove those (they don't remove, of course, from Exchange 2003 using ESM, since they're created by the Exchange 2010 server). All mailboxes, I'm pretty sure, have been moved to the new server. ESM (Exch03) shows no Public Folders at all, now. I'm nervous about removing the mail store on the Exch03 server, but I'm going to take the plunge. I don't know how to check for system mailbox(es). Also, I haven't yet removed the Routing Group Connectors that move mail between Exch10-Exch03. Though I've read several articles, none seem to discuss this and I found a tech-blog entry where a user mentioned that they should be removed before proceeding with the decommission. That would have been useful information, but Microsoft doesn't mention it in the article I referenced in a previous post. Thanks for your input. It's appreciated.
                        Last edited by jgraue; 30th January 2013, 21:37.
                        Best regards,
                        Jim Graue, MCP (WXP, WS03)

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