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  • Looking for clarification on 2010 needs - 2003 -> 2010 Migration

    Hello all. I am getting ready to migrate from 2003 to 2010 and had a few questions that I can't seem to find clear answers on.

    I have a pretty small exchange organization, ~35 users and ~60 mailboxes. My current DB size is ~90GB.

    2003 is all on a single server and in vmware. I have installed the new server os, 2008 r2 x64 with all updates and per-requisites, but have not actually installed exchange 2010 just yet. My question is do I need an Edge Transport server? I don't have a DMZ or even another segment of my network (like I said, very simple setup), where it seems the proper place for the edge role is. Am I able to do AV, Spam, etc, without the edge role? I have purchased the latest version of Symantec Mail Security for Exchange. I assume I will not have any issues with installing this on my single Exchange server which will contain the roles listed in the Typical Installation.

    Is my thought process flawed here? Am I doing things really wrong? Thanks for taking the time to lend me a hand here.

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    Re: Looking for clarification on 2010 needs - 2003 -> 2010 Migration

    No, you do not need an Edge.
    Microsoft would like you to have one, but you don't need one. I personally find Edge to be a waste of a licence - if you want something in a DMZ there are plenty of other choices that can do 90% of what Edge does. Now if Edge also did OWA, then I would be putting them in all over the place.

    Pity you purchased the Symantec junk, but that can be installed on to the Exchange 2010 server inside your network. Install the antispam agents as well and you can do recipient validation as part of that.

    Simon.
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      Re: Looking for clarification on 2010 needs - 2003 -> 2010 Migration

      Great news, that is what I was hoping for.

      Why is it that you say the Symantec is junk? I am curious to know, I mean no harm by asking. Not a fanboy by any stretch.

      I have installed it on my 2003 exchange box to get familiar with it and I have gone from ~98% to 100% spam/virus filtering. So far no false positives either. It has certainly caused my server to slow down noticeably though, but that is certainly expected, although not ideal.
      Last edited by InterTubes; 25th August 2011, 19:55.

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        Re: Looking for clarification on 2010 needs - 2003 -> 2010 Migration

        I'll be interested to see Sembee's reasons, but personally I hate Symantec's security offerings cos they are awful to manage. Poorly laid out, bloated consoles with unintuitive grouping of functions.

        We use Sophos AV and PureMessage, cos it tops the Gartner survey for ease of management pretty much every year.
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          Re: Looking for clarification on 2010 needs - 2003 -> 2010 Migration

          My dislike for Symantec goes back a long long way.
          The only positive thing I will say is that Symantec's junk brings me business, when I repair the servers it has wrecked.

          Main issue is the bloat. I have seen their software use more resources than anything else. Has a habit of resetting the exclusions I put in, or just ignoring them. Seen the product bring down more Exchange servers because of that.

          I also find it expensive and not really doing the job in more than one location.

          My other main reason for avoiding it is because it is the market leader. Therefore that is what most malware and spam creators will test against.

          AV/Anti-spam should sit in the background and just do its job. Symantec hasn't done that for a long time, and I therefore avoid it.

          The Irish MVPs who dislike Symantec have a saying - nothing good comes out of a yellow box. Apparently this is a reference to a horrible food (breakfast cereal I think) that was widely sold in Ireland in the 1970s and 80s and came in a yellow box.

          Simon.
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          Simon Butler
          Exchange MVP

          Blog: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/
          More Exchange Content: http://exchange.sembee.info/
          Exchange Resources List: http://exbpa.com/
          In the UK? Hire me: http://www.sembee.co.uk/

          Sembee is a registered trademark, used here with permission.

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