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    Hi all

    I was asked to implement this task i.e. all managers are using Blackberry and Nokia cell phone. What do I need to allow them to view all emails, calendar, appoinment, etc. on their cell phones? In other words what requirement to work with ActiveSync?
    Do we have to purchase BES server for BlackBerry?
    How do I know if his/her cell phone has Windows Mobile installed? is there any compatible software with Exchange ActiveSync?

    Any help/resources would be appreciated.

    Cheers

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    Re: Mobile and Exchange

    Originally posted by vdz View Post
    How do I know if his/her cell phone has Windows Mobile installed?
    Product documentation? The Nokias probably don't.
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    • #3
      Re: Mobile and Exchange

      Most newer nokias have "mail for exchange" preinstalled, which will give the equivalent of ActiveSync

      To run Blackberries properly, you will need both a BES installed and a BES-enabled service on the BBs
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      • #4
        Re: Mobile and Exchange

        Thank you so much for your responses.
        Now I got it,
        With regards to BB, so we need to have BES server which is very expensive. What a bummer! since we don't have any budget for it, until 2010.

        Cheers.

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        • #5
          Re: Mobile and Exchange

          You can get your email on a Blackberry without BES, but yes you will need to purchase that if you want access to calendars etc.

          Unless you feel malicious and tell your staff to use OWA on them
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          • #6
            Re: Mobile and Exchange

            Hi Gareth

            thanks for your suggestion (OWA). I think just for now, I might go with your suggestion, if the managers are not happy with that, then I will talk to my boss.

            Cheers

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            • #7
              Re: Mobile and Exchange

              Uh... just so we're clear... telling your users to use OWA from their Blackberry is a pretty evil move... try it for yourself and see after that, the only other "upgrade" you can give them is to replace their 100mbit ethernet connection with RFC 1149.

              Certainly with Vodafone handsets in the UK, if you login to your service provider's portal you should be able to setup your device to access email from an Exchange server.
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              • #8
                Re: Mobile and Exchange

                BES - The BES Server itself is free for the first 30 devices, but you must pay for the CALs.
                However if you are buying more than 10 devices you should be able to get the whole lot free. Certainly I have never paid for any part of the Blackberry software. If one provider will not do it then I just go to the next one. Someone will give me the software for free.

                While there are options to access the email without a BES, I wouldn't exactly call it sync. Some of it is screen scraping, or using IMAP etc. Not really a very good solution.

                If you don't want to use a BES then Windows Mobile is a good solution - despite what the specialist press may say. I have a number of sites using WM exclusively and they are fine. Just ensure that you get Windows Mobile 6 or 6.1 on the devices to maximise the control of the devices.

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                • #9
                  Re: Mobile and Exchange

                  Originally posted by Sembee View Post
                  While there are options to access the email without a BES, I wouldn't exactly call it sync. Some of it is screen scraping, or using IMAP etc. Not really a very good solution
                  WebDAV (HTTP) for us on Vodafone. Works ok, except that all the users have to login to the portal to setup their email account again every time we reboot the server. Naturally, users are beginning to learn not to annoy the IT staff in that respect, one could argue that it's a perfect system
                  Gareth Howells

                  BSc (Hons), MBCS, MCP, MCDST, ICCE

                  Any advice is given in good faith and without warranty.

                  Please give reputation points if somebody has helped you.

                  "For by now I could have stretched out my hand and struck you and your people with a plague that would have wiped you off the Earth." (Exodus 9:15) - I could kill you with my thumb.

                  "Everything that lives and moves will be food for you." (Genesis 9:3) - For every animal you don't eat, I'm going to eat three.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Mobile and Exchange

                    Thank you guys very much.
                    I started thinking somehow to get users to learn not to annoy the IT.

                    Cheers

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                    • #11
                      Re: Mobile and Exchange

                      We've got a mix of Windows Mobiles and Nokias (Symbian) here. The guys using Nokias much prefer Mail for Exchange to the old Road Synch client, as it gives a notification of new email rather than having to check constantly.

                      There are ways to get BlackBerrys to work without BES, but generally they are email only and seeing as it's usually marketing departements and similar that want BlackBerrys they also want calendar synching. Check this link for a simple guide on setting up mail synching. http://www.runpcrun.com/blackberry-exchange
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                      • #12
                        Re: Mobile and Exchange

                        Thank you for your link. I will definetly have a look at this website.

                        Cheers

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                        • #13
                          Re: Mobile and Exchange

                          By the way, there's a webcast about Exchange and Win Mobile on mobility webcasts.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Mobile and Exchange

                            One of my cients have Blackberry's and we use software that came with them for calendar, Tasks and contacts syncing that uses the local Outlook MAPI profile to do so on the user's desktop and Contacts in Exchange to forward emails to their Blackberry email account that was setup on the provider's portal.

                            I'm now looking at BES as we have an issue when forwarding emails to the Blackberrys. Our email permitted size limit is higher than theirs. I have already created a thread on this and got a solution but thought I would share my experiences with other users.

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