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    Hi

    system:

    srv2003r2 64 bit
    exchange2007


    i was creating a new user in AD and i see that the create user wizard does not ask me to create also a mailbox

    so i have to open the exchange 2007 managment and create a new mailbox for existing user...
    is this normal? the mailbox is working... every thing ok

    but how can i configure the exchange that it will let me create mailbox to users via the old good new user wizard...

    thanks
    Yaniv F
    MCSE 2000 Done
    RHCE Done

  • #2
    Re: Question: creating a new user in AD does not ask to create also a mailbox...

    Silly question, but do you have the exchange management tools installed on the computer where you are creating the new account?

    Tom
    Tom Jones
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    • #3
      Re: Question: creating a new user in AD does not ask to create also a mailbox...

      With Exchange 2007 everything has changed.

      If you create a user using ADUC then it will not be mail enabled. You have to go in to EMC and create the mailbox.
      If you create the user using EMC, then additional changes to the account (like login script settings etc) have to be done through ESM.

      Having the Exchange Management Tools installed on the machine doesn't matter one bit any longer, as everything for Exchange has to be done through EMC.

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      • #4
        Re: Question: creating a new user in AD does not ask to create also a mailbox...

        Or by using PowerHell (oopps, sorry, PowerShell):

        Code:
        new-Mailbox -alias "Danielp" -name Danielp -password "[email protected]" -database "exsrv01\First Storage Group\Mailbox Database" -org users
        Cheers,

        Daniel Petri
        Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Active Directory Directory Services
        MCSA/E, MCTS, MCITP, MCT

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        • #5
          Re: Question: creating a new user in AD does not ask to create also a mailbox...

          But in the time it takes me to look up the script, get the context correct, realise I put them in the wrong order, redo it, swear and then try and think of a password, I will have done half a dozen accounts in EMC!

          I am just hoping admodify.net is updated soon as well - some of the PowerShell scripts for bulk changes are just awful.

          Simon.
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          • #6
            Re: Question: creating a new user in AD does not ask to create also a mailbox...

            Finally, someone brave enough to say the truth!

            I hate it. I hate it. Damn, I hate it.
            Cheers,

            Daniel Petri
            Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Active Directory Directory Services
            MCSA/E, MCTS, MCITP, MCT

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            • #7
              Re: Question: creating a new user in AD does not ask to create also a mailbox...

              You don't like what... Powershell?
              Don't hold back... what have you got to lose.. your MVP?

              It is taking some getting used to. It doesn't help when the examples in the help files and the online guides are wrong.

              In 12 months time we will be simply throwing Powershell commands around to fix everything!

              Simon.
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              Simon Butler
              Exchange MVP

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              • #8
                Re: Question: creating a new user in AD does not ask to create also a mailbox...

                Yeah, you just step on my toes.

                You don't frighten us, English pig-dogs! Go and boil your bottom, sons of a silly person. I blow my nose at you, so-called Arthur King, you and all your silly English k-nnnnniggets.
                http://www.mwscomp.com/movies/grail/grail-08.htm
                Cheers,

                Daniel Petri
                Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Active Directory Directory Services
                MCSA/E, MCTS, MCITP, MCT

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                • #9
                  Re: Question: creating a new user in AD does not ask to create also a mailbox...

                  thank you for the response


                  so i did not miss anything and it makes me feel like its getting worst with ex2007 its very strong but not so user friendly i thing...


                  Silly question, but do you have the exchange management tools installed on the computer where you are creating the new account?

                  Tom
                  every thing is installed on the same server. (dc+exchange)
                  so i am using the exchange managment gui (EMC?)


                  With Exchange 2007 everything has changed.

                  If you create a user using ADUC then it will not be mail enabled. You have to go in to EMC and create the mailbox.
                  If you create the user using EMC, then additional changes to the account (like login script settings etc) have to be done through ESM.

                  Having the Exchange Management Tools installed on the machine doesn't matter one bit any longer, as everything for Exchange has to be done through EMC.

                  Simon.
                  yes i found that out with the feeling like WHAT IS GOING ON its just more work...

                  Or by using PowerHell (oopps, sorry, PowerShell):


                  Code:
                  new-Mailbox -alias "Danielp" -name Danielp -password "[email protected]" -database "exsrv01\First Storage Group\Mailbox Database" -org users
                  is this powershell code also creating the user? or just the mailbox for an existing user?

                  my guess its just creating the mailbox...
                  so first AD create the user then... powershell and create the mailbox.

                  i am also working with linux systems... i like that but i was thinking MS always tries to give us user friendly GUI... and not more work.

                  powershell i will have no option and just get used to it...


                  Yaniv F
                  MCSE 2000 Done
                  RHCE Done

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                  • #10
                    Re: Question: creating a new user in AD does not ask to create also a mailbox...

                    Originally posted by Sembee View Post
                    With Exchange 2007 everything has changed.

                    If you create a user using ADUC then it will not be mail enabled. You have to go in to EMC and create the mailbox.
                    If you create the user using EMC, then additional changes to the account (like login script settings etc) have to be done through ESM.

                    Having the Exchange Management Tools installed on the machine doesn't matter one bit any longer, as everything for Exchange has to be done through EMC.

                    Simon.
                    What 1d10t came up with that backwards step? (there goes my MCP...)

                    One of the really cool things about 2000/2003 -- integrated user and email management. Is its omission permanent or will it be an SP feature later?

                    Tom
                    Tom Jones
                    MCT, MCSE (2000:Security & 2003), MCSA:Security & Messaging, MCDBA, MCDST, MCITP(EA, EMA, SA, EDA, ES, CS), MCTS, MCP, Sec+
                    PhD, MSc, FIAP, MIITT
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                    Scotland

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                    • #11
                      Re: Question: creating a new user in AD does not ask to create also a mailbox...

                      Tom,

                      If I'm allowed to guess I'd say that nowadays, with Exchange 2003, a "regular" sysadmin can do almost 100% of his or her daily tasks without the need of ever learning to script anything in Exchange 2003. On the other hand, if you ever have to script or change something that is no available from the UI, then you need to work hard to get it done.

                      With Exchange 2007 the UI's usefullness has been reduced to only 40% of what needs to be done daily. There is so much one simply cannot do with the UI. Without the knowledge of PowerShell you simply cannot run the system. Sure, SBS future versions will probably have more friendly wizards, but for a regular sysadmin, life without PowerShell knowledge will be indeed hell.

                      Although the UI tools are in fact built OVER the PowerShell commandlets (thus anything you do from the UI could have been done from the PH console), I predict that in the next year or so we'll see a lot of commercial products that will be available in order to fill the UI vacuum.

                      I suggest you get used to it if you ever want to be comfortable with Exchange 2007 in the future, because without it you'll be powerless over the system.

                      Start here:

                      Exchange Server 2007:
                      http://www.microsoft.com/technet/scr...7/default.mspx
                      Last edited by danielp; 16th January 2007, 12:46.
                      Cheers,

                      Daniel Petri
                      Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Active Directory Directory Services
                      MCSA/E, MCTS, MCITP, MCT

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                      • #12
                        Re: Question: creating a new user in AD does not ask to create also a mailbox...

                        Thing is - I am sure that I read somewhere that this was what was being asked for. More Exchange admins wanted to be able to script everything in Exchange, to ease administration of sites, particularly the hosted Exchange community.

                        In recent days I have heard some quarters saying you should be considering hosted Exchange for anything up to 100 users.

                        However anyone who has worked with Exchange and seen how Microsoft set things up - they are still designing for their large sites.

                        The examples were there with Exchange 2003 - RPC over HTTPS could only be setup with a GUI if you were in a FE/BE. Ditto for having FBA enabled and using Windows Mobile devices (without lots of fiddling around).

                        Therefore what has probably happened is that the large sites (HP, GE, the big multi nationals who have Exchange servers that are counted in dozens) probably do want scripted management.
                        For small sites they like GUI interfaces.

                        Of course there is always a possibility that the problem with poor GUI support will be resolved by a new product from Microsoft. There is a new product due later in the year that is supposed to fit in above SBS and provide easy management for multiple servers. Designed for SMEs who have outgrown SBS.

                        Simon.
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                        Simon Butler
                        Exchange MVP

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                        • #13
                          Re: Question: creating a new user in AD does not ask to create also a mailbox...

                          Originally posted by Sembee View Post

                          Of course there is always a possibility that the problem with poor GUI support will be resolved by a new product from Microsoft. There is a new product due later in the year that is supposed to fit in above SBS and provide easy management for multiple servers. Designed for SMEs who have outgrown SBS.
                          I.e. Centro.
                          Cheers,

                          Daniel Petri
                          Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Active Directory Directory Services
                          MCSA/E, MCTS, MCITP, MCT

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                          • #14
                            Re: Question: creating a new user in AD does not ask to create also a mailbox...

                            Originally posted by danielp View Post
                            I.e. Centro.
                            I couldn't remember the name.
                            It has a real name as well now, but I can't remember that either!

                            Simon.
                            --
                            Simon Butler
                            Exchange MVP

                            Blog: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/
                            More Exchange Content: http://exchange.sembee.info/
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                            In the UK? Hire me: http://www.sembee.co.uk/

                            Sembee is a registered trademark, used here with permission.

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