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  • Getting rid of 2 of my 4 exchange servers.

    There are 4 Exchange servers running as VMware VMs. An in production 2010 Clientv Access only Exchange server. An in production Client Access, Hub Transpor,t and Mailbox 2010 Exchange Server. A powered off 2003 Web Access Exchange server. A powered off everything else 2003 Exchange server. When I say powered off, I mean they have been powered off since before my employment here. Over a year. I can only assume that the previous IT staff upgraded to 2010 and then powered off the 2003. Perhaps they intended to do something with them later, but they were real bad about making notes.

    I'm wanting to get rid of these powered off VMs. What is the best way to proceed? Should I just delete the VMs and clean up active directory. Or should I power them on and attempt to remove exchange. Then remove the VMs from the domain. The in production servers do know of the powered off servers existence.

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    Re: Getting rid of 2 of my 4 exchange servers.

    Absolutely do not just "delete the VMs"

    You should fire the servers up, make sure everything (esp PF replicas) is moved off them, and gracefully uninstall Exchange. This will do a proper AD cleanup. Anything involving ADSIEdit is a last resort -- a repair install and proper uninstall is preferred if a server is completely dead.

    Check out some of the links on https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=re...=1612&bih=1021
    Tom Jones
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    • #3
      Re: Getting rid of 2 of my 4 exchange servers.

      Well it looks like I may have no choice. One of the old 2003 VMs isn't contacting a domain controller. And I've tried everything I can think of to hack the local admin password and I can not get in.

      Ophcrack can't see the hard drive.
      chntpw can see the hard drive, but a bootabe ubuntu doesn't seem to be working either.
      utilman.exe seems to be disabled. Windows + u does nothing.

      For right now we are just going to power these old VMs off until we have more time to devote to it. They have been off for over a year without any issues so deleting them and then clean up shouldn't cause any major issues. But we are 2003 Function level right now. All DCs are 2008 R2. Eventually we will want to raise the function level, and I'm sure this old exchange data is going to cause issues if it isn't cleaned up.

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      • #4
        Re: Getting rid of 2 of my 4 exchange servers.

        If the AD accounts still exist, then DR them. Takes about three hours and will allow you to cleanup the domain properly.

        So trash the machines, build replacements with the same name. RESET (NOT DELETE) the AD machine accounts and then add them to the domain. Install Exchange 2003 with the recovery switch from the command line

        setup.exe /disasterrecovery

        Install the service pack, cleanup the mess, remove Exchange 2003 using add/remove programs. Nice and clean.

        Simon.
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        • #5
          Re: Getting rid of 2 of my 4 exchange servers.

          What is "DR them"?

          That is a good idea. I've had mixed results with resetting computer accounts in active directory. I don't recall ever doing it with a server though. I will give it a shot.

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          • #6
            Re: Getting rid of 2 of my 4 exchange servers.

            DR them means do a Disaster Recovery reinstall

            Please pause a moment and research it before diving in or everything could get very messy!
            Tom Jones
            MCT, MCSE (2000:Security & 2003), MCSA:Security & Messaging, MCDBA, MCDST, MCITP(EA, EMA, SA, EDA, ES, CS), MCTS, MCP, Sec+
            PhD, MSc, FIAP, MIITT
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            Ossian Ltd
            Scotland

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            • #7
              Re: Getting rid of 2 of my 4 exchange servers.

              following these instructions

              I got the new 2003 server installed and on and the domain.

              setup.exe /disasterrecovery launches the install. I click my way through it. It pops up a box that says, "After setup has completed, please restore your database from backup and then reboot your machine." I click Ok it immediatly goes to the finish page where it tells me I have successfully completed the exchange wizard. But it doesn't seem to do anything. It doesn't put System Manger on the system. It doesn't put the exchsvr folder in my program files. Nothing. I think it must have something to do with the attached image because 40MB doesn't sound like a lot to me.
              Attached Files

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              • #8
                Re: Getting rid of 2 of my 4 exchange servers.

                Do you now have Exchange 2003 listed in Add/Remove programs? If so, run setup from there and choose to install the relevant parts that you need.

                Simon.
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                Simon Butler
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                • #9
                  Re: Getting rid of 2 of my 4 exchange servers.

                  Originally posted by Sembee View Post
                  Do you now have Exchange 2003 listed in Add/Remove programs? If so, run setup from there and choose to install the relevant parts that you need.

                  Simon.
                  Negative. Nothing in Add/Remove.

                  EDIT: I think I figured it out. I didn't have IIS installed. Then I ran into another problem where I can't install System Management Tools SP2 without first installing System Management Tools... SO I gotta download that and try again.
                  Last edited by ant2ne; 1st May 2013, 15:58.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Getting rid of 2 of my 4 exchange servers.

                    In that case the procedure didn't work correctly.
                    Did you install all of the required bits of Exchange first? All of the IIS components etc?

                    Simon.
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                    Simon Butler
                    Exchange MVP

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                    • #11
                      Re: Getting rid of 2 of my 4 exchange servers.

                      Ok, with this one server where I had to create a new 2003 server with the same name and join it into the domain under the reset account... Exchange has been installed and uninstalled. I have not disjoined the domain as of yet. Because of the squirlly way I had to get this server uninstalled, I'd like to verify that the exchange components of this server is now completely removed from Active Directory. How can I do that?

                      The other server uninstalled without much trouble. Apparently the routing group connectors were still up so that side tracked me a little bit. Both servers error-ed something about "Collaboration and Messaging" while uninstalling exchange. But it still uninstalled just fine.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Getting rid of 2 of my 4 exchange servers.

                        Bump.

                        Nothing? Is there no way to check. I tried googling it and it seems like nobody is ever worried about it. I guess if this bump doesn't get a reply I'll go ahead and disjoin and take my chances.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Getting rid of 2 of my 4 exchange servers.

                          Do you see the server listed in ESM? If you do then the uninstall didn't work correctly. RGCs don't get removed during the uninstall because they are org settings. You have to remove them later (or before doing the uninstall).

                          Simon.
                          --
                          Simon Butler
                          Exchange MVP

                          Blog: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/
                          More Exchange Content: http://exchange.sembee.info/
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                          • #14
                            Re: Getting rid of 2 of my 4 exchange servers.

                            Thanks for your help. The servers are now gone.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Getting rid of 2 of my 4 exchange servers.

                              I just noticed that I'm getting MSExchangeTransport Event IDs 5016,5015 and 5006 in regards to the two removed exchange servers. I'm not sure what I missed.

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