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    Hello,I am planning to install new BlackBerry® Enterprise Server Express edition on Microsoft server 2003 standard edition and Exchange 2003. Maybe I posting this questions in the wrong section , but I have not found where else.
    I need to get advice from somebody who practically had this installation done.
    First my option is to install BESX software on the Exchange box, which will save my budget by avoiding buying additional hardware and server license.
    Per Besx documentation, it supports up to 75 users if installed on the Exchange server. I probably will have only about 15 users.
    The server only need to be upgraded with more memory.




    I have the following concerns:
    1. Coexistence between blackberry database and exchange database. Is there any known performance issue?
    2. How does the memory sharing work between blackberry and exchange.
    3. How the blackberry database will grow.
    4. Currently the server has 2gb on C partition and 35Gb on D partition . I want to redirect installation to d partition. I want to know if any problem doing that. How is the Blackberry database will grow.
    Thank you very much.


    Alex

  • #2
    Re: BESX and Exchange 2003

    This is a supported configuration. Although i would suggest you procure new hardware rather than installing it on Exchange. The server may struggle for resource(s) as Exchange can only see 2GB max. 2Gb for the OS and 2GB for Exchange.

    BES express can install into SQL Express. The assumption with this version is that you have a small enviroment. Larger enviroments require SQL standard/enterprise. The limitation for SQL Express databases to my knowledge is 4GB. Additionally you can install BES to the partition of your choice.

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    • #3
      Re: BESX and Exchange 2003

      Thanks for the reply.
      Do you know if the during installation even though I,ll redirect installation to different partition, something still need to be installed on C drive or will be installed on the C drive.


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      • #4
        Re: BESX and Exchange 2003

        If you only have 2gb of space on the main drive of the system, then I think you have bigger problems to worry about than the space that BES will use. That is a very small amount of space which can go very quickly and bring the system to a halt.

        By default, BES and BESx installs quite a bit of content in to default locations, which will include a C drive. Content goes in to c:\Program Files\Common Files and in to user profiles.

        As long as the server isn't being overworked, they will quite happily co-exist. The SQL database isn't heavily used.

        Simon.
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        • #5
          Re: BESX and Exchange 2003

          Thanks to everybody for your suggestions and recommendations.
          So with the size of my C drive,I would better build the a new server dedicated to BESX?

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          • #6
            Re: BESX and Exchange 2003

            If it was me, and I had the spare hardware available, I would do a full swing migration, so that the current Exchange server could be reconfigured appropriately.
            Then once Exchange is installed, BESx could be installed on to the same system.
            BESx on its own machine is a bit of an overkill, it doesn't require much resources, most BES installations I do go in to virtual machines.

            Whatever you do, you are still going to have an Exchange server with a very low amount of free disk space that could cause you problems at some point in the future.

            Simon.
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            • #7
              Re: BESX and Exchange 2003

              Hello,
              How is complicated to migrate Exchange server from one server to another or what is the best way to do it to complete migration with a minimal time?

              I appreciate all you help

              Thank you
              Last edited by alexk; 5th August 2010, 22:06.

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              • #8
                Re: BESX and Exchange 2003

                As long as you take your time and don't rush things, then it is quite straight forward to migrate Exchange from one server to another. There are numerous guides on how to do that on the Internet - mine is here: http://exchange.sembee.info/2003/mig...-migration.asp

                Simon.
                Last edited by Sembee; 15th July 2011, 12:32. Reason: URL Correction
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                • #9
                  Re: BESX and Exchange 2003

                  Hello,
                  What is your personal recommendation for implementing exchange server on Raid 1 or Raid5?
                  Currently I have Raid1.

                  There are several ways to move or migrate Exchange from one server to another. What do you think about Moving Exchange 2003 server to a new hardware by using "Offline Backup"? Have you done with? I want to keep the same name and IP settings for the new server. Do you have any guides how to do this?

                  Thanks

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                  • #10
                    Re: BESX and Exchange 2003

                    For the OS/Logs, RAID1.
                    You can get away with the database on RAID 5 although a mirror is preferable due to speed. You need two arrays as a minimum.

                    Why do you want to retain the same IP address and name? IP address is easily done, but retaining the same name is troublesome.
                    If you must, then a full swing, using a temporary machine is the best way.

                    I don't do migrations using any kind of backup/restore as it puts the data at risk. A swing migration means the data is never at risk. From me, you will only get swing migration guides, nothing else. If you insist on doing backup/restore then I will drop out of the question, as I will have nothing to do with them.

                    Simon.
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                    • #11
                      Re: BESX and Exchange 2003

                      Could you please explain me briefly why retaining the same name for exchange server is troublesome, because if I will found spare hardware for the swing migration and the current Exchange server will be reconfigured, am I still better of came up with another new name for my original exchange server for migration back? What do you think about method of copying exchange database files from one server to the other? Is it a good method or some complication may happen?

                      Thank you.

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                      • #12
                        Re: BESX and Exchange 2003

                        If you are going to do a full swing, where the original machine is going to be removed completely and then rebuilt (as the data is on a new/temporary machine) then retaining the same name isn't an issue.

                        Where it becomes a problem is when people want to go from server 1 to server 2, and server 1 is going away.

                        Moving the database files is pretty high risk, as the databases are very closely tied to the machine name. To do the move database method you have to drop the original server and do a DR installation. That means if there is a problem with the files, you are stuffed.

                        A swing migration is completely risk free. At no point are you in a position where you cannot back out of it. It is the ONLY kind of migration that I do, I refuse to have anything to do with any other method and have walked away from clients who wanted me to work in another way.
                        I am very risk adverse and do not take any unnecessary risks - that is why I have a 100% success rate on migrations.

                        Simon.
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                        Exchange MVP

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                        • #13
                          Re: BESX and Exchange 2003

                          I most likely will install BESX on its own machine. What do you recommend as Operating system to install on, window 2003 standard or 2008 standard
                          edition? I am not sure ,because I don’t know yet about coexistence windows 2008 server (member) in windows 2003 domain. Also could you tell me please, if Security Certificate is a requirements for this installation?


                          Thank you
                          Alex

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                          • #14
                            Re: BESX and Exchange 2003

                            If you deploy BESx SP2, which was released last week, then you can use either Windows 2003, Windows 2008 or 2008 R2.
                            No SSL requirements for BESx with regards to Exchange.

                            Simon.
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                            • #15
                              Re: BESX and Exchange 2003

                              Hello. What do you recommend as far as 64 bit or 32bit. I have not seen from sytem requrements that BESX supported on windows 2008 R2 unless they did not update sytem requrements. Also all servers in domain including exchange 2003 running on 32 bit platform. I guess it doesn not matter if BESX installed on windows 2008 64 or 32bit. Please correct me if I wrong

                              Thank you very much
                              Alex

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