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    We have an Exchange Mail Server installed on domain controller. We want to move it to file server. We are following move step by step advice from support.microsoft.com/kb/822931. On the step "Public Folder replication" after right click we recieve error message "ID no: c103b405". Can anybody clearify this situation?

  • #2
    Re: move Exchange mail server

    it IS much easier to migrate AD away to another server
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    • #3
      Re: move Exchange mail server

      Can you tell us how to expand the PUBLIC FOLDER? It just does not expand.
      Thanks

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      • #4
        Re: move Exchange mail server

        http://support.microsoft.com/kb/325923
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        • #5
          Re: move Exchange mail server

          Originally posted by DYasny View Post
          it IS much easier to migrate AD away to another server
          No it isn't.
          As you cannot DCPROMO an Exchange server without breaking Exchange or being supported, moving AD off Exchange is impossible. Therefore moving Exchange off is the only option.

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            Simon, I've done it before and it worked
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            • #7
              Re: move Exchange mail server

              Originally posted by DYasny View Post
              Simon, I've done it before and it worked
              Ah. The drunk driver's excuse.

              Just because you have done it before does not mean that
              a. It will always work
              b. That it is supported
              c. That you should recommend it to someone else without the above two points being made clear along with the risks involved.

              The point is, changing the role of an Exchange server is not supported and will usually break Exchange. The fact that you have got away with it means exactly that - you have got away with it.

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              • #8
                Re: move Exchange mail server

                well, without knowing something is impossible, achieving that impossible is easier

                anyhow, what will go wrong, if I:
                1. dcpromo another server
                2. let AD replicate
                3. switch over the FSMO roles
                4. remove AD from the exchange server

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                • #9
                  Re: move Exchange mail server

                  Exchange breaks.

                  Specifically the most common problems are with IIS, due to the way that IIS permissions are managed when the server is a domain controller, compared to a member server. That doesn't just break OWA, it can also stop SMTP from working, management of public folders etc.
                  I have also seen services fail to start the permissions generally screwed up and any number of other issues.

                  Doesn't matter which way you spin it - DCPROMO of an Exchange server is not supported by Microsoft. Whether that is making an Exchange server a domain controller or making a domain controller a member server. Once Exchange is installed the role it has must stay until Exchange is removed.

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                    Re: move Exchange mail server

                    Originally posted by DYasny View Post
                    Simon, I've done it before and it worked
                    I was told once by a project manager/former NT Tech that he had made an NT4 Member Server into a BDC without reinstalling the operating system or using third party tools... he'd done it many times apparently. Apparently later that same year he demoted the same box too... again without any extra software.

                    He was always a little hazy on the details, and I never managed to pin him down to demonstrate either.


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                    • #11
                      Re: move Exchange mail server

                      Originally posted by Sembee View Post
                      Exchange breaks.

                      Specifically the most common problems are with IIS, due to the way that IIS permissions are managed when the server is a domain controller, compared to a member server. That doesn't just break OWA, it can also stop SMTP from working, management of public folders etc.
                      I have also seen services fail to start the permissions generally screwed up and any number of other issues.

                      Doesn't matter which way you spin it - DCPROMO of an Exchange server is not supported by Microsoft. Whether that is making an Exchange server a domain controller or making a domain controller a member server. Once Exchange is installed the role it has must stay until Exchange is removed.

                      Simon.
                      is there an official article about this?
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                      • #12
                        Re: move Exchange mail server

                        Originally posted by Stonelaughter View Post
                        I was told once by a project manager/former NT Tech that he had made an NT4 Member Server into a BDC without reinstalling the operating system or using third party tools... he'd done it many times apparently. Apparently later that same year he demoted the same box too... again without any extra software.

                        He was always a little hazy on the details, and I never managed to pin him down to demonstrate either.
                        As far as I am aware that isn't possible, without third party tools. It was one of the major problems with NT4. The most you could do with NT4 was PDC/BDC changes. Happy days...

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                          Originally posted by DYasny View Post
                          is there an official article about this?

                          http://support.microsoft.com/kb/822179

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                          • #14
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                            Originally posted by Sembee View Post
                            As far as I am aware that isn't possible, without third party tools. It was one of the major problems with NT4. The most you could do with NT4 was PDC/BDC changes. Happy days...

                            Simon.
                            That's my point...


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                            • #15
                              Re: move Exchange mail server

                              You can run Exchange Server 2003 on either a member server or on a domain controller. After you install Exchange Server 2003 on a server, do not change the role of the server. For example, if you install Exchange Server 2003 on a member server, do not use the Dcpromo tool to promote the server to a domain controller. Or, if you install Exchange Server 2003 on a domain controller, do not use the Dcpromo tool to demote the server to a member server. Changing the role of a server after you install Exchange Server 2003 may result in loss of some Exchange functionality and is not supported.
                              yup, it's all in there. however, having worked enough with (and for) large vendors the "not supported" statement means "we don't know, and don't want to find out"
                              so, as I said - it did work for me, nothing got broken, and the system is still up and running, for almost two years since the move
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