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    I am in the middle of a mess.
    My client had sbs 2003 with exchange set up and working fine. There new IT guy figured sbs wasnt good enough so he installed a new server running windows server 2003 but when he set it up it he gave it a different domain then the sbs 2003 exchange box (against my advise). He couldnt figure out out to move exchange so he just set up a trust between these two servers so users can access exchange. When you add a new user you have to do it first on the win2k3 box then add the same user on the sbs2k3 exchange box (both are running AD).
    But now he is gone and they are starting to have major problems.
    I would like to get this back to a managable configuration. Ideally one server would be great. They will have to stick with the new win2k3 box as they made a considerable investment in storage space.

    My questions:
    Can you install exchange 2003 on the win2k3 box and move exchange from the sbs box? (remember they are different domains)

    I know you shouldnt install exchange on DC but they dont allow any incoming connections and dont use OWA.

    or

    Is there a way to change the domain on the sbs2k3 box to be the same as the win2k3 and run both boxes ?

    What is my best bet here? Any help would be appreciated.
    (they have lots of public folders also)

  • #2
    Re: Move exchange or change domain

    Your best option would be to extract everything using exmerge, import it in mailboxes on the original SBS Server and then wipe that new server.
    Rebuild it and then add it to the new domain.
    Install Exchange and move the mailboxes and public folders correctly to the new server.
    Leave Exchange on the old machine so that all the wizards work correctly. it can accept email and then pass it on to the new server.

    Don't try and repair what was obviously a bodged installation by someone who doesn't understand SBS.
    Don't try and rename things as that will break Exchange.

    How did he get a trust in place. You can't do trusts with SBS.

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    • #3
      Re: Move exchange or change domain

      The Win2k3 server is there main server with over 2tb of file storage, it would be a major undertaking at this stage to take it down and rebuild it.

      I was hoping exchange could be installed on the Win2k3 server and the database migrated, but I know the issue is the different domains.

      Any suggestions about doing that?

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      • #4
        Re: Move exchange or change domain

        Not with Exchange 2003.

        You cannot move the databases around. Your ONLY option to cross domains with Exchange 2003 is extract the data to PST files.

        If there is too much data on the server to move, then the SBS domain will have to be written off.

        There is no easy option to the mess you have unfortunately.


        Simon.
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        • #5
          Re: Move exchange or change domain

          Would you use exmerge for this?

          What about Public Folders?

          Thanks

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          • #6
            Re: Move exchange or change domain

            Exmerge is your ONLY option with Exchange 2003.
            Public Folder data has to be moved by hand in to PST files through Outlook. That includes importing it. When it comes to the import do not make the mistake of trying to move the folder. Move the content as well, otherwise the permissions comes across as well - which are no good and will be SIDs.

            Simon.
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            • #7
              Re: Move exchange or change domain

              You mean to use the export/import feature in Outlook.

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              • #8
                Re: Move exchange or change domain

                Also do you see any other issues running Exchange on a Win2k3 Primary DC?

                I know its not advise but again they dont allow any incoming connections and dont use OWA.

                This would get them down to one machine.

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                • #9
                  Re: Move exchange or change domain

                  I don't think you can export Public Folders through Outlook. It has to be a manual move. As in create a new PST file, then choose the public folder and drag and drop. It is slow and you will often find that the process will fail half way through.

                  Everything on a single server - the major problem is performance and recovery. It complicates data recovery considerably, as you have to restore the domain first and then restore Exchange. Performance can take a hit as well.

                  Simon.
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