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    My wife and I are planning to go to the UK for 12 months or so at the start of next year, and I'm starting to look into what I want to do and so forth, but thought I might ask for some information, to decide whether or not it may be worth taking a year off IT.

    At the moment, i'm in a high energy system engineer role, that I utterly adore, but it requires so much time and energy.. i don't get time off, cause i'm always like 'i've just got this to do, then i can sit back and relax for a while" but I just never quite get there.

    So I'm tossig up whether maybe i want to take short term 1-3 month help desk contracts, which i'm probably over qualified for, just to sort of relax and nt be so stressed, or whether I should keep doing a similar role now to keep current..

    or whether i should just get a bar job for 12 months.

    the main purpose of our trip is to do side-trips to europe. so I don't want to be heavily tied into a ojb like I am in this one..


    I'm also curious where pay rates sit for varying jobs, and I understand this could be different dependant on areas of th eUk.. but some guidelines would help...
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    That's got to be a first, an Aussie coming over here and stealing our IT jobs instead of the other way round.

    I started my current job in August and it took me 2 months to find a job then, but recently it seems the contract market has picked up again. I'm on a few agency lists and since the turn of the year I get several emails a week enquiring about contract work.

    The risk is though that most short term (I.e 1-3 month) contracts are for first line work, which may be frustrating spending your time doing password resets and configuring Internet Explorer rather than doing the sort of things you have been doing. Pay is also not particularly great for these types of jobs. Jobs in London and surrounding areas generally pay better to offset the higher living costs too.
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    • #3
      Re: IT work in the UK

      For service desk work as a permanent employee you're looking at GBP14-15,000 per year as a newbie rising to GBP20,000 a year for the experienced guys/team leaders etc. Not sure about contractors but a lot of larger firms pay pretty much a fixed rate to contractors now rather than the contractor setting the rate.

      I should sign up with an agency or seven and cherry pick the offers that come in.


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      • #4
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        wow.. first line SD is quite low.

        To be honest - I'm actually leaning towrds working on a service desk, sure, it might be mind numbing sometimes, but I'd get to leave the job at work when I go home... which is something I don't get to do now.. i can't stop thinking about it...

        but 14-15K.. that's very ver ylittle.. and we'd end up never doing our side trips..
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        • #5
          Re: IT work in the UK

          Originally posted by cruachan View Post
          That's got to be a first, an Aussie coming over here and stealing our IT jobs instead of the other way round.
          You should come to London and see if you still think that!

          How about short term consulting jobs with 1 month breaks? Plenty of money plus time off when you want. There may be a demand if you are specialised?
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          • #6
            Re: IT work in the UK

            Is work picking up again in the UK???

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            • #7
              Re: IT work in the UK

              Not really no - but for someone willing to step down the ladder a bit there's always SOMETHING.

              Techamel - don't forget those are permanent employee prices I'm quoting - contractors work out pro-rata quite a bit higher.

              [edit] I've just been told by a colleague that the very worst that a contractor will get on the service desk is 10 an hour which pro rata works out about 18k per year. Generally you can get 12-14 per hour if you shop around and it'll be more in London.
              Last edited by Stonelaughter; 16th March 2009, 13:08.


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              • #8
                Re: IT work in the UK

                Originally posted by AndyJG247 View Post
                You should come to London and see if you still think that!
                Things are obviously different here in Scotland.

                For a while there was no contract work either, but it seems to have picked up a bit recently. Maybe a few people with a little extra cash in the year end pot, who knows?
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                • #9
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                  Originally posted by Stonelaughter View Post
                  Not really no - but for someone willing to step down the ladder a bit there's always SOMETHING.

                  Techamel - don't forget those are permanent employee prices I'm quoting - contractors work out pro-rata quite a bit higher.

                  [edit] I've just been told by a colleague that the very worst that a contractor will get on the service desk is 10 an hour which pro rata works out about 18k per year. Generally you can get 12-14 per hour if you shop around and it'll be more in London.
                  Shit, I can get more here driving a forklift. I was getting AUD$50 p/h when I was subcontracting here in 1997. Rates have risen considerably now. Even doing shitty school work, 37.5 hours per week, 46 weeks a year I am looking at AUD$80,000. If I subcontract via a middleman, about AUD$68,000. No qualifications required, seriously. Got a mate who got a job in the schools and had never installed Windows Server 2003 (he was a web designer) and he was looking after about 28 Servers.

                  Now if I can just get off the blacklist I might get back in again otherwise it's Mr Forklift.

                  This should make you laugh. Got a school to purchase an actual Server before I injured my elbow July last year (was off work for 3 months). Server arrived in August and the tech who got my schools has left the bloody thing sitting in the box since then. At present they are running a couple of underpowered workstations with stuff all HDD capacity. School called me Friday and asked if I would like to setup the Server. 7 months and the idiot has left it sitting there in the original box. His idea of fixing a printer is to replace the faulty one from another room that has one that was working. Brian if you are reading this, you are a dickhead plonker.
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                    As pointed out by someone wiser than me, if this post had been made by another member they would possble have reveived a warning for what I said about the plonker. I did try to Infract myself but the option is not possible.

                    So, if I would do that to myself, imagine what I would do to others who posted like this. Unfortunately the Brian I am refering to probabily isn't smart enough to be a member of this Forum.

                    Also, with the above salaries I mentioned, I forgot to remove 10% GST (VAT) tax. Sorry.
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                    • #11
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                      Originally posted by biggles77 View Post
                      Unfortunately the Brian I am refering to probabily isn't smart enough to be a member of this Forum.
                      I was so tempted to create a member SmrtBrianAu but the IP address would give me away...
                      ...and I wouldn't have liked to be banned

                      Originally posted by biggles77 View Post
                      Shit, I can get more here driving a forklift
                      ....through a Bank door.
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                      • #12
                        Re: IT work in the UK

                        Originally posted by L4ndy View Post
                        I was so tempted to create a member SmrtBrianAu but the IP address would give me away...
                        ...and I wouldn't have liked to be banned



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                        • #13
                          Re: IT work in the UK

                          Forklift driving for properly qualified people who are good at it pays poorly here; until you get to the 30 ton range, then it starts to pay.

                          However Service Desk work does not pay well because people still have the old image in their heads of a "Helpdesk" who log calls and work to scripts. Even though service desks are now far more skilled, quality people, they still don't get paid for it.


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                          • #14
                            Re: IT work in the UK

                            Originally posted by biggles77 View Post
                            the Brian I am refering to probabily isn't smart enough to be a member of this Forum.
                            I'm Brian and so is my wife

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                              Re: IT work in the UK

                              Originally posted by Hanley View Post
                              I'm Brian and so is my wife

                              Ah, the famous "Monty Python's Wife of Brian"
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