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  • value of Security+ ?

    I've had a passing interest in security for a very long time.. but until this point, haven't needed to go really indepth with it.

    In honesty, in my current role, and what I foresee over the next 12 months, It's not really going to be necesarily beneficial to my ability to perform my role, or advance within a particular position or company.

    And beyond that, while it would have some theoretical knowledge, I don't think it's the kind of thing that would necessarily matter there either.

    Did I just answer my own question ? who knows.

    The point is.. I only have a finite amount of time I could fit studying into, and I think that Ex2010 and SBS2008/2011 are logically the most appropriate fits for my continuing defined career path.


    So.. should I do the Sec+ training, just for knowledge sake and not worry about exam ?
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    Re: value of Security+ ?

    IMHO none
    (Yes, I have Sec+ but this was inflicted on me)
    Unless it has radically changed, it is a very superficial exam which teaches almost nothing about security in the real world
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    • #3
      Re: value of Security+ ?

      what about the other Comptia, like Network+ or A+ or Linux+ (I won't even bother with Server+ I think i've exceeded that)
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      • #4
        Re: value of Security+ ?

        Originally posted by tehcamel View Post
        what about the other Comptia, like Network+ or A+ or Linux+ (I won't even bother with Server+ I think i've exceeded that)
        The only exam of any value is the Linux+. The Project+ isn't too bad as an entry level cert for learning PMI methodology. But as a whole CompTIA certifications really don't mean too much. Still if you fancy picking up an easy cert CompTIA's always the best place to start

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        • #5
          Re: value of Security+ ?

          how thre hell do they justify being twice as expensive as MS exams ?
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          • #6
            Re: value of Security+ ?

            Please refer to P.T. Barnum
            Tom Jones
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            • #7
              Re: value of Security+ ?

              heheheh

              exchange and SBS it is then
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              • #8
                Re: value of Security+ ?

                I did contemplate doing Sec+ for a while as a way of upgrading to MCSE: Security, but the price and the content made it unjustifiable.

                A few years ago I worked for a big hardware company and they wanted all their engineers to be certified. I got away with it cos I already had MCPs but the guys who did A+ or Network+ were learning about stuff that was massively out of date and irrelevant to their jobs.
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                • #9
                  Re: value of Security+ ?

                  If you do want to pursue useful certificates based on security have a look at CISSP, CISA and CISSM.
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                  • #10
                    Re: value of Security+ ?

                    Not forgetting CEH and various proprietory forensic certs
                    Tom Jones
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                    • #11
                      Re: value of Security+ ?

                      Well that depends a bit on the value where you live. I rarely see job descriptions with CEH or other forensic certs.
                      Marcel
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                      • #12
                        Re: value of Security+ ?

                        I decided to read Structured Computer Organisation by Andrew Tanenbaum first.. then i'l do more training

                        I think I could do with some more solid groundings in the fundamentals. The sort of thing I may have gotten if I ever went to uni..
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                        • #13
                          Re: value of Security+ ?

                          Not trying to jack the thread or anything, but my boss actually want me to get A+, Sec+ and Net+, as someone who only has been doing this as a profession for about almost 3 years now(and nothing advanced either, no I haven't set up a forest of super servers to host the most intricate network config ever) are the three still worth "nothing"?

                          I do eventually want to become a/an CEH, a CPPT or a Computer Forensics Analyst.
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                          • #14
                            Re: value of Security+ ?

                            IMHO you would be better getting some MCTS certs -- Win 7 / Server 2008 with an aim towards MCITP (Either Server Admin or Ent Admin, with a side of Ent Support)
                            Tom Jones
                            MCT, MCSE (2000:Security & 2003), MCSA:Security & Messaging, MCDBA, MCDST, MCITP(EA, EMA, SA, EDA, ES, CS), MCTS, MCP, Sec+
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                            • #15
                              Re: value of Security+ ?

                              I think you're better of doing a CCNA certification instead of N+.
                              A+, well I've done it about 10 years ago and back then it was just a piece of crap. Learned basically nothing then some really basic stuff where nowadays these knowledge isn't needed anymore.

                              Sec+ I haven't done it, but I read some documentation about it. It's really the basics and nothing more or less.
                              Marcel
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                              Netherlands
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                              MCITP(EA, SA), MCSA/E 2003:Security, CCNA, SNAF, DCUCI, CCSA/E/E+ (R60), VCP4/5, NCDA, NCIE - SAN, NCIE - BR, EMCPE
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