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  • Looking for advice on MCSE elective.

    Hi there!

    I am studying for what I hope will eventually be a MCSE. I have taken 70-270 and I will take 70-290 on Monday. I have heard that 70-291 and 70-293 cover much of the same material so it makes sense to take those two one after another.

    Since I want my MCSA as soon as possible I was thinking of taking an elective test next. My plan after the elective is 70-291,70-293, 70-294 and then 70-297. And then maybe a trip to Iceland with my brother. I would at some point like to get a MCITP:EA but like I said, I am going to need a break.

    The difficulty is that I'm unemployed now so I don't have a huge amount of resources available to me. But boy, do I have time to spare! I have a Mac but I do have an XP partition and have VMware fusion with eval copies of server 2008 and server 2003 r2 in VMs. I've got gobs of HD space and 4Gb memory to fool around with. But there is no extensive AD forest for me to run around in or big databases to administer.

    I don't have vista. I know it makes some sense to take that test because it will help with the MCITP:EA requirements. However with Windows 7 in pre-release I don't see much of point in learning something that nobody uses. And if I wanted to do that I would go back to my Novell training.

    I am leaning towards an Exchange elective. But I am open to suggestions.

    Thanks in advance for you help!

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    Re: Looking for advice on MCSE elective.

    Personally I would skip MCITP:EA for the moment and finish the MCSE 2003 first (which you already started)
    At least this is what I've done. The reason for this was for me quite clear; I was afraid that I would mix both technology during the exams.
    I've done my MCSE within 3 months, but it depends quite a lot how much experience you have.

    The fact that you are currently unemployed doesn't mean you can practice in a lab. I would build 1 DC and 1 or 2 clients. For the current exams I think you should have sufficient.

    When you later on want to study for the exchange exams you always can (although not a best practice in the real world) install exchange on the DC in your lab.
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      Re: Looking for advice on MCSE elective.

      I agree with Dumber in that I'd focus on the 2003 stuff first. With the current climate the majority of companies are delaying their normal upgrade cycles and will be extending by 1-2 years or more.

      Exchange is probably a good choice: I don't know figures but I'd bet the vast majority of companies using Windows Servers also use Exchange for email. Other options are ISA Server (soon to be replaced by TMG though), SQL Server or even Sharepoint. Personally I would choose Exchange though, I only passed my Exchange 2003 MCP in December.
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        Re: Looking for advice on MCSE elective.

        Guys, thanks for the advice. I'm sorry if I didn't make myself clear but I am not going to detour to an MCITP:EA at any point. It's MCSE or bust! I was looking ahead that taking the Vista exam would remove one requirement of MCITP:EA.

        I was thinking of 70-284 (Implementing and Managing Microsoft Exchange Server 2003). My only concern is that every exchange admin I've ever met is a bitter and sarcastic misanthrope. And I don't know if I want to join the dark side just yet.

        BTW I got a 957 on 70-290. I know I can't say much about it. But I want to kill the person who wrote one of the simulations. All I can say is that they used one of the most awkward ways of adding something to something.

        Thanks again for the help. It is much appreciated!

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          Re: Looking for advice on MCSE elective.

          Originally posted by nbloom View Post
          I was thinking of 70-284 (Implementing and Managing Microsoft Exchange Server 2003). My only concern is that every exchange admin I've ever met is a bitter and sarcastic misanthrope. And I don't know if I want to join the dark side just yet.

          I'm not sarcastic!

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            Re: Looking for advice on MCSE elective.

            Originally posted by nbloom View Post
            I was thinking of 70-284 (Implementing and Managing Microsoft Exchange Server 2003). My only concern is that every exchange admin I've ever met is a bitter and sarcastic misanthrope. And I don't know if I want to join the dark side just yet.
            I am bitter and sarcastic, however my misanthropy is not universal and is purely reserved for stupid users. If there's not a word for that, there probably should be.

            Besides, it could be worse. Is misanthropy worse than 90% of the DBAs I've ever met, who would have to learn how to communicate with the rest of the human race before learning to mistrust them.
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              Re: Looking for advice on MCSE elective.

              Originally posted by nbloom View Post
              My only concern is that every exchange admin I've ever met is a bitter and sarcastic misanthrope
              Depends what version of Exchange they have to support. I just moved my company from 2003 to 2007 and I'm a lovely person
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                Re: Looking for advice on MCSE elective.

                Originally posted by nbloom
                I was thinking of 70-284 (Implementing and Managing Microsoft Exchange Server 2003). My only concern is that every exchange admin I've ever met is a bitter and sarcastic misanthrope.
                You do realise what Daniel Petri MVP (of Petri IT Knowledgebase) specialise in, don't you? Did I mention he has a 5.56mm message stick as well.

                On a serious note, Exchange is an interesting and challenging app. With all the smartphone and other device wanting to connect to it and do things it really wasn't designed for it brings to mind the Chinese curse. May you live in interesting times. If you are up for a challange and depending on where you want your IT path to go then Exchange and a security cert to go with it would be my choice if I was younger.
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                2 2 was 1 2.
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