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  • MCITP: EMA Lab setup required

    Well after skipping exchange for the last few years it seems that I've do it anyway.
    However my last exchange "meeting" was about 3 years ago and that was 2003.

    Because Exchange 2007 seems to be a bit different I'm looking for some lab setups.
    I know how Vmware works but what else do I need other then a DC

    Oh and you can skip ISA. I can publish it so
    Marcel
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  • #2
    Re: MCITP: EMA Lab setup required

    DC + 2 x Exchange 2007 (clustering / role distribution) + Exch 2003 (legacy) + client
    And possibly an additional Exch 2007 for Edge Transport
    Last edited by Ossian; 17th March 2009, 15:43.
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    • #3
      Re: MCITP: EMA Lab setup required

      And for 70-236 as a starter?
      Marcel
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      MCITP(EA, SA), MCSA/E 2003:Security, CCNA, SNAF, DCUCI, CCSA/E/E+ (R60), VCP4/5, NCDA, NCIE - SAN, NCIE - BR, EMCPE
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      • #4
        Re: MCITP: EMA Lab setup required

        I passed that exam through reading the 70-236 Microsoft Training Kit book and getting hands-on experience with transitioning from Exchange 2003 to 2007 and using it within the organisation.

        However, I reckon if you at least had a DC and Exchange 2007 server, it should be enough. You would then need to make sure you understand the theory of the Edge Transport server with regards to subscriptions, spam filtering, rules, antivirus etc.

        It would be beneficial to have an Edge Transport Server to practice with and explore settings but personally, I have never gained practical experience with one and learned the theory.

        You can still use some of the clustering featrues of Exchange 2007 just with 1 server. I don't feel practical experience is necessarily required for this, just an understanding of the clustering technology available and where you go to configure it.

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        • #5
          Re: MCITP: EMA Lab setup required

          I've to explain myself a bit.
          First of all I'm not a service desk employee neither am I a System Administrator.
          I work as a Support Specialist where as I'm supporting Admins based on their networking & security issues.
          I'm quite highly specialized into PKI, DNS and ISA server.
          However AD and other related things (DHCP, IIS, WSUS, etc) aren't an issue either.

          Because of this I don't administrating a single server nor a end user.
          Therefore I can't learn a lot about Exchange 2007 if we don't receive any calls about it.
          And because of the current climate a lot of projects are on hold.

          Also we have been taken over by an other company.
          Due to of this transaction every department keeps there own problems.
          If they need us, they have to pay. And it's a lot cheaper to do it yourself then hiring someone.

          So on the job training for Exchange 2007 is on this moment nearly impossible to do.
          Hopefully this will change on a short notice but well... It isn't a stable factor at the moment
          So therefore I need a good lab environment.
          At the moment it sounds that one dual-core with 4 GB memory isn't enough.

          Maybe I should lookout for an additional Desktop or so. To bad I already invested in some Cisco equipment
          Marcel
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          Netherlands
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          MCITP(EA, SA), MCSA/E 2003:Security, CCNA, SNAF, DCUCI, CCSA/E/E+ (R60), VCP4/5, NCDA, NCIE - SAN, NCIE - BR, EMCPE
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          "Enjoy life today, tomorrow may never come."
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          • #6
            Re: MCITP: EMA Lab setup required

            I have a 2003 DC with another Exchange 2007 SP1 box running in VM workstation on my laptop (2GHz AMD with 4GB RAM) so you shouldn't have an issue. You can split the roles apart in Exchange but for testing there is no need. I've never bothered with Edge servers at all.
            I would recommend installing it on 2003 and also 2008 as they are different. If you know AD mate then just think of it as another application. 2007 is a lot more separated from AD like 5.5 was unlike the more integrated Exchange 2003.
            cheers
            Andy

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            • #7
              Re: MCITP: EMA Lab setup required

              My post was with regards to a lab environment and just mentioned the hands-on experience before taking my exam for 70-236.

              Andy supports my view.

              The Microsoft Training Kit is probably all you need but practical experience in the lab environment won't do any harm. I found that the exams covered elements that I have never and probably never will gain practical experience in and of course the 'new features'.
              Last edited by Virtual; 17th March 2009, 18:42. Reason: spelling errors

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              • #8
                Re: MCITP: EMA Lab setup required

                Ah ok, Then I misunderstood you
                So 2 - 3 VM's would be enough for at least 70-236.

                The reason for a lab setup is that I want to understand what they are telling me. Seeing it is believing it
                Marcel
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                MCITP(EA, SA), MCSA/E 2003:Security, CCNA, SNAF, DCUCI, CCSA/E/E+ (R60), VCP4/5, NCDA, NCIE - SAN, NCIE - BR, EMCPE
                "No matter how secure, there is always the human factor."

                "Enjoy life today, tomorrow may never come."
                "If you're going through hell, keep going. ~Winston Churchill"

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                • #9
                  Re: MCITP: EMA Lab setup required

                  That should be fine. The training kits usually give you suggestions for lab setup as well. I have only ever used 1 Exchange server with 4 of the roles on it and found it enough practical wise for the exam. The training book really helped me pass as it had theory I couldn't gain knowledge of practically (or in test environment). I found it quite tricky as it covered content regarding the Edge Server and powershell commands. That's another point, make sure you learn some powershell as well in relation to Exchange. When you use the GUI, it generally will also allow you to copy the powershepp code that could have been used instead.

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                  • #10
                    Re: MCITP: EMA Lab setup required

                    Well usually before I start reading I want to know what I can expect.
                    It's kinda weird maybe
                    Oh well, Let's start reading....
                    Marcel
                    Technical Consultant
                    Netherlands
                    http://www.phetios.com
                    http://blog.nessus.nl

                    MCITP(EA, SA), MCSA/E 2003:Security, CCNA, SNAF, DCUCI, CCSA/E/E+ (R60), VCP4/5, NCDA, NCIE - SAN, NCIE - BR, EMCPE
                    "No matter how secure, there is always the human factor."

                    "Enjoy life today, tomorrow may never come."
                    "If you're going through hell, keep going. ~Winston Churchill"

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                    • #11
                      Re: MCITP: EMA Lab setup required

                      My boss sat it a few months back and passed with 2-3 VMs and little practical experience. We don't have any customers using it yet.

                      He mentioned Public Folders as a big gotcha, as there was a big change in them between RTM and SP1. Other than that, if you know powershell you can pass it (according to him!)
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                      • #12
                        Re: MCITP: EMA Lab setup required

                        Hmmm Powershell...
                        I know batch, Kixtart and VBscripting.
                        And now I've even to learn Powershell. Hmmm MS is making me really happy..

                        Oh well..
                        Marcel
                        Technical Consultant
                        Netherlands
                        http://www.phetios.com
                        http://blog.nessus.nl

                        MCITP(EA, SA), MCSA/E 2003:Security, CCNA, SNAF, DCUCI, CCSA/E/E+ (R60), VCP4/5, NCDA, NCIE - SAN, NCIE - BR, EMCPE
                        "No matter how secure, there is always the human factor."

                        "Enjoy life today, tomorrow may never come."
                        "If you're going through hell, keep going. ~Winston Churchill"

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