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  • Windows Server 2008 Certifications - Death To The Mcse

    I watched the Microsoft webinar on the new Server 2008 (formerly Longhorn) certifications last week and came away feeling a little underwhelmed. In case you didn’t know already the MCSE is “dead” for Server 2008 and they are moving on to a “job based” approach to their certifications. Read on for more details.

    Windows Server 2008 MCTS Certifications

    To begin with, there will be several Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist (MCTS) exams that you can take to certify specific skills on the Server 2008 platform. These are roughly equivalent to becoming a MCP in Windows 2000/2003. You will earn MCTS certification for each different exam that you pass. Here are the initial MCTS exams that will be released:

    70-640 MCTS: Configuring Windows Server 2008 Active Directory
    70-642 MCTS: Configuring Windows Server 2008 Network Infrastructure
    70-643 MCTS: Configuring Windows Server 2008 Application Platforms

    70-640 and 70-642 are no surprise but 70-643 is interesting. It will cover Internet Information Services (IIS 7) and Microsoft Virtual Server among other things. Pretty cool. These exams are scheduled to be available 30 days after Server 2008 goes RTM.

    Windows Server 2008 MCITP Certifications
    There are two different Server 2008 tracks, the Server Administrator and the Enterprise Server Administrator. Both of these are MCITP level certifications, re


    quiring multiple exams. These are the highest level of certification (outside of the MCA program) that you can attain. Here are the requirements for each.

    Windows Server 2008 Administrator:

    70-640 Active Directory
    70-642 Network Infrastructure
    70-646 Windows 2008 Server Administrator Exam
    ***Only 3 exams required; the MCTS exams 70-640 and 70-642 and the main MCITP exam for this track, 70-646

    Windows Server 2008 Enterprise Administrator:

    70-640 Active Directory
    70-642 Network Infrastructure
    70-643 Applications Platform
    70-620 OR 70-624 Windows Vista Client
    70-647 Windows Server 2008 Enterprise Administrator Exam
    ***5 exams required; the MCTS exams 70-640, 70-642, 70-643, 70-620 (or 70-624) and the main MCITP exam for this track, 70-647

    The two MCITP exams are schedlued to be available 60 days after Server 2008 goes RTM.

    Do I lose my MCSE/MCSA?
    No. You get to keep your MCSE or any credential earned under the Windows 2000/2003 certification track. You essentially have a “MCSE in Windows 2003″ (for example). However, you do not become a “MCSE in Windows 2008″, because the MCSE no longer exists. You will have to upgrade to one of the MCITP certifications referenced above. Your Windows 2000/2003 certifications will not expire and will continue to be valuable as long as Windows 2000/2003 is used on company networks. If you are currently working on your MCSE/MCSA keep working on it…it is still valuable and will provide you with excellent base knowledge that will also apply to Windows 2008.

    Can you upgrade your MCSE/MCSA to Windows Server 2008 Certifications?
    Yes, there is an upgrade path but only for WINDOWS 2003 MCSEs and MCSAs. If you are certified in Windows 2000, you must upgrade to Windows 2003 first or just take the Windows 2008 exams individually. Here are the upgrade details:

    Windows 2003 MCSE
    - Pass the 70-649 (upgrade) exam and you do not have to take 70-640, 70-642, 70-643. You DO have to take the MCITP: Enterprise Server Administrator exam and the Vista client exam.

    Windows 2003 MCSA
    - Pass the 70-648 (upgrade) exam and you do not have to take 70-640, 70-642. You DO have to take the MCITP: Server Administrator exam.


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    Re: Windows Server 2008 Certifications - Death To The Mcse

    Thanks for this, Sco1984

    Its a little disappointing that the upgrade path will require 2 or 3 exams (depending on the strand), also that the "Engineer" title seems to have disappeared.
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      Re: Windows Server 2008 Certifications - Death To The Mcse

      Just think Tom - more letters after your name

      Michael
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        Re: Windows Server 2008 Certifications - Death To The Mcse

        This is going to take years for HR hiring managers to adjust to. Go to a interview with the MCITP and they'll probably say "Sorry we are looking for a MCSE 2008".

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          Re: Windows Server 2008 Certifications - Death To The Mcse

          Originally posted by Ossian View Post
          Thanks for this, Sco1984

          Its a little disappointing that the upgrade path will require 2 or 3 exams (depending on the strand), also that the "Engineer" title seems to have disappeared.
          I am honestly surprised the term "Engineer" was ever there. Most States have gone after the "Engineer" designation claiming only board certified professional engineers can hold this term in their job title.

          I guess Bill is bigger than most States and MSCE is a worldwide designation but it would be funny if the USA version had the title changed to "Technician" or ???
          Cheers,

          Rick

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            Re: Windows Server 2008 Certifications - Death To The Mcse

            Originally posted by rvalstar View Post
            I am honestly surprised the term "Engineer" was ever there. Most States have gone after the "Engineer" designation claiming only board certified professional engineers can hold this term in their job title.

            I guess Bill is bigger than most States and MSCE is a worldwide designation but it would be funny if the USA version had the title changed to "Technician" or ???
            I guess this is a difference in national perspectives and the value placed on titles -- in the UK C.Eng or equivalent is, IMHO, not commonly used.

            What I feel was valuable about MCSA/E was the clear distinction between the Administrator (day to day operations/lower level troubleshooting) and Engineer (design/planning/deep troubleshooting) roles. This now appears to have been lost, with the distinction appearing to be one of scale (Enterprise Admin vs Admin)

            Tom
            Tom Jones
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            PhD, MSc, FIAP, MIITT
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            Ossian Ltd
            Scotland

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